Chance Sisco...

[Tony-OH]

Kind of like the idea of guys putting up big years at one level (Walker and Sisco) rather than splitting time at two levels. I wouldn't be upset with a Sisco promotion but if he tears up the SALLY league for the rest of the year, he will certainly be in consideration for skipping Frederick and going right to Bowie next year. Did a couple of months at Frederick really speed he maturation process of Machado and Schoop or would they have advanced at the same rate if they had tore up the SALLY league and been promoted to Bowie at the start of the next year? Good question. I don't think it would have made a significant difference.

Me too, especially catchers. Part of his learning process is learning his pitchers and the league. The Sally League has a lot of teams and it can't hurt to force him to track a lot of hitters on a lot of teams. If he wasn't a catcher I might be more interested in seeing him moved up, but the fact is that 16 months ago he was catching in high school for the first time in his life.

If the Orioles want to challenge him, maybe giving him a the last month of the season in High-A is ok, but I would not have a problem with him spending a whole season in Low-A.

[Frobby]

Me too, especially catchers. Part of his learning process is learning his pitchers and the league. The Sally League has a lot of teams and it can't hurt to force him to track a lot of hitters on a lot of teams. If he wasn't a catcher I might be more interested in seeing him moved up, but the fact is that 16 months ago he was catching in high school for the first time in his life.

If the Orioles want to challenge him, maybe giving him a the last month of the season in High-A is ok, but I would not have a problem with him spending a whole season in Low-A.

Another point is, the fact that he is having an easy time with his offense at this level allows him to spend more time focusing on his defense. If he was hitting .220 at Frederick he might be tempted to spend less time working on his defensive game, or at least, be distracted from focusing on it. That said, what he is doing to the Sally League is absurd, and I'm anxious to see how he'll hit at higher levels.

[hoosiers]

I don't understand the Walker mention since he did not put up a big/full year at Delmarva. He played 31 games there in 2013, 55 in Frederick and 17 in Bowie.

Another 2014 Delmarva promotion was Trey Mancini who put up an OPS of 779 with a 14/52 BB/K ratio in appox 305 PAs.

I understand the whole "he was in HS last year" thing, but we promoted Manny pretty quickly.

I also understand the "he needs to work on his craft (catcher defense)", but it is difficult to recall at Delmarva hitter having as successful a season as Sisco not being promoted (Markakis played all 96 games in 2004 at Delmarva to an 842 OPS (Nick spent the last month of that season with the Greek national team in the Olympics).

[EagleOriole]

I don't understand the Walker mention since he did not put up a big/full year at Delmarva. He played 31 games there in 2013, 55 in Frederick and 17 in Bowie.

Another 2014 Delmarva promotion was Trey Mancini who put up an OPS of 779 with a 14/52 BB/K ratio in appox 305 PAs.

I understand the whole "he was in HS last year" thing, but we promoted Manny pretty quickly.

I also understand the "he needs to work on his craft (catcher defense)", but it is difficult to recall at Delmarva hitter having as successful a season as Sisco not being promoted (Markakis played all 96 games in 2004 at Delmarva to an 842 OPS (Nick spent the last month of that season with the Greek national team in the Olympics).

I think he was speaking of Walker staying at Bowie all year. I am fine with Sisco staying down if he is being challenged (offensively or defensively).

[Frobby]

I don't understand the Walker mention since he did not put up a big/full year at Delmarva. He played 31 games there in 2013, 55 in Frederick and 17 in Bowie.

Another 2014 Delmarva promotion was Trey Mancini who put up an OPS of 779 with a 14/52 BB/K ratio in appox 305 PAs.

I understand the whole "he was in HS last year" thing, but we promoted Manny pretty quickly.

I also understand the "he needs to work on his craft (catcher defense)", but it is difficult to recall at Delmarva hitter having as successful a season as Sisco not being promoted (Markakis played all 96 games in 2004 at Delmarva to an 842 OPS (Nick spent the last month of that season with the Greek national team in the Olympics).

It's all about him being a catcher, IMO. How many catchers drafted out of high school have ever played above Delmarva the following season? If any one deserves to be the first, it's Sisco, but the defensive stuff is very important. Sisco has 13 passed balls in 47 games and he has caught only 21 of 87 runners who attempted to steal. By comparison, Austin Wynns has only 5 passed balls in 40 games and he has thrown out 18 of 53 runners. Last year Winston Sawyer allowed 10 passed balls at Delmarva in 80 games (no SB data available). The entire Frederick catching corps has only 9 PBs this season. So, I'd say Chance has some work to do on the defensive part of his game.

(By the way, I don't mean to suggest that those PB and SB numbers are so bad that Sisco can't stick at catcher. There have been plenty of guys at Delmarva with similar or worse. It just shows that he has work to do.)

[BohKnowsBmore]

Kind of like the idea of guys putting up big years at one level (Walker and Sisco) rather than splitting time at two levels. I wouldn't be upset with a Sisco promotion but if he tears up the SALLY league for the rest of the year, he will certainly be in consideration for skipping Frederick and going right to Bowie next year. Did a couple of months at Frederick really speed he maturation process of Machado and Schoop or would they have advanced at the same rate if they had tore up the SALLY league and been promoted to Bowie at the start of the next year? Good question. I don't think it would have made a significant difference.

If he's at Bowie next year, what are the odds that he and CJ are there together? Could be a good guy to spend some time with considering his stint at the ML level this season.

[EagleOriole]

If he's at Bowie next year, what are the odds that he and CJ are there together? Could be a good guy to spend some time with considering his stint at the ML level this season.

Caleb Joseph should be the back up catcher for the Orioles next year. As much as Buck values defense, Caleb has proven he can defend his position well.

[BohKnowsBmore]

Caleb Joseph should be the back up catcher for the Orioles next year. As much as Buck values defense, Caleb has proven he can defend his position well.

I don't know. If wieters is back, I feel like he will be more open to a guy like clevenger, especially if he can be a lefty bench bat.

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[EagleOriole]

I don't know. If wieters is back, I feel like he will be more open to a guy like clevenger, especially if he can be a lefty bench bat.

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Pretty sure we saw who Buck chose this year, Caleb has been the regular catcher even though he clearly is not as good a hitter. He is just a much better catcher.

[Reboulet'sStache]

Caleb Joseph should be the back up catcher for the Orioles next year. As much as Buck values defense, Caleb has proven he can defend his position well.

Unless the Orioles plan to keep Joseph as their catcher of the future, you trade him. If he is your catcher of the future, why put on him on the bench? Wouldn't you just trade Wieters before the start of next year?

[EagleOriole]

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Long term Caleb Joseph is a back up catcher. He is solid defensively, but he is 28 years old. He is not going to be a league average hitter. If Wieters is not here after next year he could be a fall-back starter, but he is not plan A and he is not going to fetch much of anything in a trade.

[Reboulet'sStache]

Long term Caleb Joseph is a back up catcher. He is solid defensively, but he is 28 years old. He is not going to be a league average hitter. If Wieters is not here after next year he could be a fall-back starter, but he is not plan A and he is not going to fetch much of anything in a trade.

Joseph is older than you would like. But according to the metrics he is the best defensive catcher in baseball. His oWAR is currently at 0, which is a huge improvement from where he was just a few weeks ago. I think by the end of the year his bat will be good enough relative to his glove. He is under team control until what, 2019? 2020? So even if he starts to decline in his early 30's, who cares? Unlike most players, you aren't really paying for the decline years. In a league where catcher is one of the hardest positions to find, you don't think some team isn't going to be willing to part with something for that? And that something will be more valuable than having Joseph sit on the bench next year?

[csgordos]

Even if Wieters is healthy OD next year, which I question, our backup catcher will play more often than the past. The nature of the beast after returning from the rehab/injury. I see CJ as an MLB Oriole next year and possibly starting on OD.

[Stotle]

Really good progress from Sisco this year. A good showing at Frederick/Bowie next year is going to firmly put him on the map. Needs to continue to refine his approach and show he's capable of making adjustments and handling quality secondaries. Good bat speed and solid feel for barrel, which is a great start.

As a converted infielder, it will be interesting to see how the glove plays moving forward. If the bat continues to show legit plus upside, I wonder if Baltimore doesn't shift him out from behind the plate to 1) get him advancing more quickly, and 2) keep him in the lineup more often, long term.

[sportsfan8703]

Without so many PED's in baseball now, more teams are going to a 2 catcher set up. Kind of like how the nfl has moved to a two running back set up on each team. Cisco, Joseph and Ohlman should be able to hold the job down eventually.