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I'm pissed that they haven't made an effort to keep him.   IIRC, no talk of a new contract or an extension or anything.

I do have a sneaking feeling that they hold onto him all year and try to make an offer in FA.  With all the money coming off the books they might be able to afford him.  That is such a terrible, terrible idea though.  Chances are slim that they can offer what another team can and I don't think Manny would give a hometown discount.

Sucks to see the Orioles get a guy like this a top 5 or top 10 player in the game and just piss all over themselves when it comes to keeping him.  

Oh well.  Truly enjoying this season, it's great to see him hit like this.  Looks like he's more comfortable in the field, too.

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1 hour ago, Natty said:

What good is trading Manny for some prospects? I don't get it...

The O's are already out of playoff contention. You can trade Manny for prospects that will help the O's be better in the future.

That being said, a lot of people on this board overrate prospects. Prospects are exactly that, prospects.

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1 hour ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Read this over and over again until it sinks in. 

1) We aren't winning this year with or without Machado. 

2) He's not resigning with us. 

3) If we trade Machado we can acquire prospects and start building for the future. If you need a real life example, ten years ago we traded Eric Bedard for Adam Jones, Chris Tillman, and George Sherrill. Adam Jones became our everyday starting center fielder and Tillman was a serviceable starting pitcher for a number of years. 

4) If we don't trade him all we get a middling draft pick as compensation. 

Prospects are a dime a dozen. Most of ours dont pan out. Look at Santander. Last year everyone had such high hopes for him. 

But I agree Manny will not sign with us. Even if we offer 300M. He wants to play with a playoff team.

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16 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Per Fangraphs, Manny already has been worth $19.2 mm this season, compared to the $16 mm we’re paying him for the entire season.   

I know our MASN radio guys are homers, but they did say Manny was having a MVP year, and he really is.

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4 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I know our MASN radio guys are homers, but they did say Manny was having a MVP year, and he really is.

That pesky Mike Trout  (and somehow Mookie Betts) out there ruining things. Im so happy for Manny, hes having an amazing season.  Hope it keeps getting better.  

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1 minute ago, TommyPickles said:

Has anyone ever won MVP playing for two different teams in one season?

Not that I can recall

Just now, MikeAD said:

That pesky Mike Trout  (and somehow Mookie Betts) out there ruining things. Im so happy for Manny, hes having an amazing season.  Hope it keeps getting better.  

They are and if they keep it up all 3 will be on the short voting list of candidates

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2 hours ago, Natty said:

Prospects are a dime a dozen. Most of ours dont pan out. Look at Santander. Last year everyone had such high hopes for him. 

But I agree Manny will not sign with us. Even if we offer 300M. He wants to play with a playoff team.

...ok let me simplify this even a bit more. Getting something is rather than nothing right? For example, if someone offered you a $20 or nothing, you'd take the $20 right? 

Also, Santander is a cast off of from another teams farm system. Someone no one else really wanted. If we trade Machado then we'll get "actual" prospects. Will they all become superstars? Who knows, but as they say with the lottery you have to play to win. 

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In yesterday's Norfolk game, some might have noticed a 21 year old Gwinnett 3rd baseman named Austin Riley hitting 3 homers and knocking in 8 runs.  If you get the urge to say the O's should get him in a Machado trade, forget about it.  The O's waited too long.  We'll get to see Riley playing in the postseason for many years to come in Atlanta - perhaps against whatever team Manny signs with.    

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2 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

In yesterday's Norfolk game, some might have noticed a 21 year old Gwinnett 3rd baseman named Austin Riley hitting 3 homers and knocking in 8 runs.  If you get the urge to say the O's should get him in a Machado trade, forget about it.  The O's waited too long.  We'll get to see Riley playing in the postseason for many years to come in Atlanta - perhaps against whatever team Manny signs with.    

Just because a kid can hit AAA pitching, mean, he wont flame out in the bigs.

Even top prospects, still fail 30% of the time.

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1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

Just because a kid can hit AAA pitching, mean, he wont flame out in the bigs.

Even top prospects, still fail 30% of the time.

And if pigs could fly, there could be flying pigs.  Put it this way - If Riley was in the O's organization, he would EASILY be the O's top prospect.  

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1 minute ago, Ruzious said:

And if pigs could fly, there could be flying pigs.  Put it this way - If Riley was in the O's organization, he would EASILY be the O's top prospect.  

EASILY?

Maybe position player.

I still have a lot of faith that Harvey is the real deal and future ACE of this staff.

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4 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

EASILY?

Maybe position player.

I still have a lot of faith that Harvey is the real deal and future ACE of this staff.

Sorry, VERY EASILY.

I'm very hopeful about Harvey, and if he didn't miss a couple of seasons, you could make a legitimate case for him against Riley.  

 

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