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Was ERod too much for Andrew Miller

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  1. 1. ERod for Miller

    • It's a steal
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    • I'm fine with that price but I'll miss him.
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    • Too much: worried about only 2 months of Miller vs a long career of ERod
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Jonesy10 Hangout Veteran Council

Jonesy10

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So some people say it's too soon to tell if this was a win. Yet some people say don't trade Harvey or Bundy because they are going to be good. How is it to early to tell on one but not the other?

Some people like this trade. We give up our third or fourth best minor league pitcher for a reliever and ppl like it.

Yet the same ppl think trading a pitcher coming off TJ ( Bundy) would have been dumb to trade for Samardizja or Lester....Ridiculous.

Trading Bundy for a 2 month rental is different than trading EdRod for a 2 month rental. Samardzija also had an ERA well above 4 last season. He's not really an ace. He's a lot like Ian Kennedy who some didn't even think was an upgrade.

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Jonesy10 Hangout Veteran Council

Jonesy10

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Pretty big gap between Lester/Price and Miller, no?

Miller is at 1.4 WAR right now. Price is at 3.9. If Miller pitches 25 innings he could be worth 0.7-0.8 WAR. Even if Price continues pitching extremely well and averaging 7 IP per start, he would likely accumulate 1.5-1.8 WAR. Lester could be closer to 2.0-2.5.

That's not taking into account who these players are replacing. There's a very good chance that Miller and Price have equal value in terms of WAR added the rest of the season (Miller replacing Matusz, Price replacing Smyly/Davis replacing Jackson). Obviously Price is under contract for next season though while Miller is a FA. Just thought it was an interesting way to look at it. The Orioles got a fairly significant upgrade for the rest of the season. Getting a TOR starter would have been nice but this was still a deal that helps the team tremendously.

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RVAbird All-Star

RVAbird

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Moderate overpay for what is probably a negligible upgrade. But, I think Ed Rod is probably somewhere between a lefty reliever and a #4 starter, so it's not something that will come back to haunt you. And the target is right - misses bats, keeps the ball in the park. I guess I'll say I'm fine with it, though I would have liked to see what Rodriguez could have brought back as part of a package.

This doesn't really move the needle in terms of playoff odds, but it will be nice to have another shutdown arm in a short series.

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PA724_Oriole Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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Trading Bundy for a 2 month rental is different than trading EdRod for a 2 month rental. Samardzija also had an ERA well above 4 last season. He's not really an ace. He's a lot like Ian Kennedy who some didn't even think was an upgrade.

How. As far as I'm concerned ERod had just as good of a chance to be as good as bundy if not better.

Also I love how ppl are living in the past with JS. You are looking forward the future with Bundy but want to look at the past with JS because it makes you feel better about the Os.not getting him.

Answer me this. What does it make JS if the next five years he pitches as good as this year?

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mark_beckens Major Leaguer Rising Star

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Don't Get me wrong, I Like the addition. I could careless about keeping ERod. But I think more should have been done considering the position they are in. And also considering what our competition have done to be better than us.

So, regardless of cost, make deals to give the illusion it makes the team that much better then it already was.

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