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It bugs me to read that the team thinks his Injury isn't as bad and that he should be able to come back, but Manny is nervous about next year. It just makes me wonder if he's willing to put in the work now to come back now

Put yourself in Manny's shoes for a minute. Twice as a major leaguer he's had to cope with debilitating pain from his knees. Now he finds out that in addition to the sprain, his knee has the same abnormality as the one that broke down last year. So, unless he gets the surgery, this is likely to happen again. Plus, his knee hasn't been improving.

If you were Manny, would you want to come back even though you're not 100% and risk another episode like the one he had last year? Honestly, I'd like to see him give it a shot, but I understand why he wouldn't. It's his pain.

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Put yourself in Manny's shoes for a minute. Twice as a major leaguer he's had to cope with debilitating pain from his knees. Now he finds out that in addition to the sprain, his knee has the same abnormality as the one that broke down last year. So, unless he gets the surgery, this is likely to happen again. Plus, his knee hasn't been improving.

If you were Manny, would you want to come back even though you're not 100% and risk another episode like the one he had last year? Honestly, I'd like to see him give it a shot, but I understand why he wouldn't. It's his pain.

He can have the surgery. I would rather see him gut it out. Or at least try to.

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Where did you read this?

It was said in a report from Roch this morning

He can have the surgery. I would rather see him gut it out. Or at least try to.

Yea I'm not him so I can't say anything, but he has to understand his value is unparalleled, if he came back for a week and said hey I can't do this then okay, but to just hang it up when the doctors give you an okay bugs me

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Nobody knows what the doctors might have told him. Maybe they put the fear of God in him and told him what sorts of horrible things might happen to him if he tries to play with a damaged knee. Get it fixed and come back strong and ready to play in 2015.

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Did we ever hear directly from the O's doctors? I don't remember but, if so, I didn't hear what they said. I'm not sure I'd trust they were being fully open to the media anyway. The whole situation has seemed odd to me, like a DD/Buck smokescreen. We were supposed to get official word the day after the injury and that dragged out and dragged out and then the answers were very vague. Since then it's been a volley of "he'll be back" and "he's not feeling better" remarks. I never really expected him back and would love to believe that fixing the "abnormalities" will stop all these knee injuries. If that's true it's totally worth losing him now.

There's surely a defensive drop off but it's the offense I've been worried about all season. Manny being out puts Young in the lineup so I don't think there's a significant drop off. We're out of useful hitters now though. The bench is Flaherty, Lough, Phelps, and Hundley. There's very little offense there. I sure hope DD can find another useful bat.

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He can have the surgery. I would rather see him gut it out. Or at least try to.

It sounds like he made the right decision for himself and for the team. I don't want him f'ing up in the field because he's playing hurt. If he was an offensive lineman, I could see taking a shot at gutting out an injury. This is just a bit different.

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I'm not worried about this year. I mean not having Manny hurts, but it doesn't doom us. My primary worry is long term. I have zero confidence in him being able to consistently play entire seasons of baseball now. The wheels on an athlete are important. And once they go it isn't pretty. Just ask Grant Hill.

I'm really tempted to say that when it comes time for him to be a free agent, to let him walk.

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He can have the surgery. I would rather see him gut it out. Or at least try to.

Not me. If I were him and the docs told me that this issue is identical to what happened to my other leg, there is no way would I try come back this year. I'm not really helping the team playing at 25 - 50%, I risk injuring this leg just as badly as the other one, and I know that with the rehab time table I experienced last time, if I start the process two months earlier, I'm back and helping the team 100% from day 1 next year.

I know he doesn't want to hang it up on 2014 now, but it's the right call for both him and the team.

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I'm not worried about this year. I mean not having Manny hurts, but it doesn't doom us. My primary worry is long term. I have zero confidence in him being able to consistently play entire seasons of baseball now. The wheels on an athlete are important. And once they go it isn't pretty. Just ask Grant Hill.

I'm really tempted to say that when it comes time for him to be a free agent, to let him walk.

We have years left to make that determination. He could have several seasons without a hint of injury before then. Time will tell.

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We have years left to make that determination. He could have several seasons without a hint of injury before then. Time will tell.

Yeah that's true. Obviously I don't want us to make any rash decisions right this moment. But, I don't think I'd want to give him 150 million if he can't consistently give us full, healthy seasons.

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I feel bad for him :(

But I'm feeling really optimistic that his surgery will go great and this will be his last big injury! He has awesome stats and he's only played 82 games! Keep in mind that when we got manny we got to the play offs for the first time since 1997!!

I don't think it's smart to get rid of him. We'd look stupid if he became like the best in the league on another team.

Best of luck Manny! I can't wait to see you playing next year. Or whenever you're ready :)

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He can have the surgery. I would rather see him gut it out. Or at least try to.

Weams, maybe the issue was his "sprain" wasn't a straight up grade 1 something closer to a grade 2 and they decided to wait a week or so and see if it got better. It didn't so it truly was worse then what the O's were saying publicly and might as well do the surgery now since it looks more and more like Manny just won't be back this year.

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