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Manny Machado expected to have surgery on knee within a week.


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Hard to say. They might have been close to a deal when the news leaked, and that leak might have raised the asking price. I still suspect any upgrade will be for a backup, not a starter.

They had a good week to get something done.

I don't blame him a bit. In the last four years he has injured his knees:

Running the bases

Landing on first base

Swinging a bat

I'd want it fixed.

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They had a good week to get something done.

I don't blame him a bit. In the last four years he has injured his knees:

Running the bases

Landing on first base

Swinging a bat

I'd want it fixed.

Me too. It's just a shame that his doctor felt the need to advertise it. He did the same thing after performing surgery last October. Aside from not helping the team, it doesn't help Manny's relationship with the team.

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Thank goodness he's getting this fixed now. Honestly I'm happy for him. Yeah he'll probably miss the playoffs and maybe a World Series. But honestly it seems like we are going to be making the play offs more often since we have him. He made a really smart decision because getting it this week, could mean that he will be ready for spring training. That sounds good to me!

Finally this could be the last season ending injury.

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Pretty sure he did what he was told by Neal. It's not like he was listening to anyone else. Anyone.

Can you imagine being that young and hurting yourself swinging a bat? Running to first base? Rounding second?

It isn't like he is a football player getting taken out at the knees. He is suffering significant injuries performing tasks that are a routine part of his daily job.

Only question I have is why didn't they check the other knee for this anomaly when he was already getting cut last season?

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Can you imagine being that young and hurting yourself swinging a bat? Running to first base? Rounding second?

It isn't like he is a football player getting taken out at the knees. He is suffering significant injuries performing tasks that are a routine part of his daily job.

Only question I have is why didn't they check the other knee for this anomaly when he was already getting cut last season?

Two pay days for Dr. Neal? Two season's in the sun? Two leaks to sports sources?

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Thank goodness he's getting this fixed now. Honestly I'm happy for him. Yeah he'll probably miss the playoffs and maybe a World Series. But honestly it seems like we are going to be making the play offs more often since we have him. He made a really smart decision because getting it this week, could mean that he will be ready for spring training. That sounds good to me!

Finally this could be the last season ending injury.

I'd have wrapped it.

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Can you imagine being that young and hurting yourself swinging a bat? Running to first base? Rounding second?

It isn't like he is a football player getting taken out at the knees. He is suffering significant injuries performing tasks that are a routine part of his daily job.

Only question I have is why didn't they check the other knee for this anomaly when he was already getting cut last season?

I can't even imagine what the rehab would be for both knees at the same time. Pretty much knocks you off your feet.

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“A lot of guys go through this..for a substantial amount of years before it completely tears and you have to have surgery, Most people try to rehab this way. It’s only when the tear is substantial that you operate. So for us to do anything different to me would be silly. Maybe it doesn’t tear … until 2018. You have to take this opportunity to try to do it the conservative way because it’s not a complete tear.”

Bronx Joe on Tanaka

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This year was a tear, not a rupture. Last year was a rupture and they still felt he could have rehabbed it. Still. Last year. With the rupture.
“A lot of guys go through this..for a substantial amount of years before it completely tears and you have to have surgery, Most people try to rehab this way. It’s only when the tear is substantial that you operate. So for us to do anything different to me would be silly. Maybe it doesn’t tear … until 2018. You have to take this opportunity to try to do it the conservative way because it’s not a complete tear.”

Bronx Joe on Tanaka

Three injuries, in four years, performing routine tasks.

There is an anomaly that makes him more vulnerable.

Now if next year he goes out and rips one up doing something routine I will change my view, but if these surgeries significantly reduce his chances for re-injury I am all for them.

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Agreed. The question is if the surgery could have been delayed until after the season and whether Manny would be capable of performing the rest of this season at some point. I think getting the surgery is definitely the smart thing to do.

I think other doctors felt he could have played. Maybe ones that look to anything other than a surgical remedy. Unlike the excellent surgeon that Manny consults.

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Three injuries, in four years, performing routine tasks.

There is an anomaly that makes him more vulnerable.

Now if next year he goes out and rips one up doing something routine I will change my view, but if these surgeries significantly reduce his chances for re-injury I am all for them.

I think it's better that he have the surgery ASAP, but I can't shake the feeling that the O's are essentially absorbing Manny's growing pains so that he can strike it rich with another team in a few years. The whole situation leaves me feeling unsettled.

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So did the Orioles know the whole time Manny was done for the year so they could try to find a 3B and not make it seems like a panic move??

Sounds like we all got duped by the FO.

I absolutely think so. I've said as much. There's been a complete lack of answers around this.

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