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Mandatory metal detectors at Camden Yards

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I never fire away at stupidity. I do not believe that you can properly assess risks to deter them well enough to be effective.

You gauge their effectiveness by counting the times security was breached and somebody was hurt or killed.

You never can archive 100% perfect security, but you put controls in place to reduce the risk and maximize the safety.

As with car alarms, it's not like they are infallible, but they make the thief rethink and move to an easier target.

last thing the MLB or NFL want, is a real-life Black Sunday event.

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Sidenote -- I travel a lot and have been approved for TSA precheck about 8 months ago. This is probably the best thing ever. I would hope they would open this program up to less frequest flyers as it makes the whole security process at an airport feel relaxed.

My wife and I also have Precheck (and Global Entry). It's worth every penny and then some. Although, as more people get it, the lines have gotten longer and slower.

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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Ben Franklin

Oh I know, even something as petty as an unalienable right.

I'm pretty sure there's no unalienable right to go to a baseball game.

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Camden Yards is secure enough. There are plenty of police officers all throughout the ballpark, equipped and trained to deal with any possible, highly unlikely scenarios.

The metal detector policy is ridiculous, intrusive. But, if it has to be implemented, let's do it in a way that is at least quick.

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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Ben Franklin

So, you see, folks, seat belts and speed limits are a bad idea. Ben Franklin said it, so it must be true!

I never understood why people believe that others should have the freedom to endanger others' lives. If someone wants to endanger themselves, I'm actually tempted to support them in that endeavour, since it would result in one more idiot being taken out of the gene pool. As long as it doesn't affect anyone else.

"Your right to swing your arms ends just where the other man's nose begins."

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

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I'm pretty sure there's no unalienable right to go to a baseball game.

Bingo. Professional establishments on private property are as free to demand that you not carry weapons onto the premises, as you are free to "bear arms" on your own private property, or on public property.

Last I checked, Major League Baseball and the Orioles were not an arm of the government.

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I'm pretty sure there's no unalienable right to go to a baseball game.

That is correct sir. It is such a privilege that our government allows this activity. So if you are going to participate in it, do whatever they say.

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Sidenote -- I travel a lot and have been approved for TSA precheck about 8 months ago. This is probably the best thing ever. I would hope they would open this program up to less frequest flyers as it makes the whole security process at an airport feel relaxed.

I made my first ever trip on an airplane (round trip) earlier this year, and traveled with someone who is TSA Prechecked. I'm not, but they are. Rather than staying with me through the non-precheck security measures, they separated from me. I was a little indignant. :P However, it wasn't all that bad for me anyway. No rectal probes; they just made me take my shoes off and run a couple Xrays through me.

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Bingo. Professional establishments on private property are as free to demand that you not carry weapons onto the premises, as you are free to "bear arms" on your own private property, or on public property.

Last I checked, Major League Baseball and the Orioles were not an arm of the government.

But, isn't the Maryland Stadium Authority, the owners of OPACY, part of the state government? :)

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I made my first ever trip on an airplane (round trip) earlier this year, and traveled with someone who is TSA Prechecked. I'm not, but they are. Rather than staying with me through the non-precheck security measures, they separated from me. I was a little indignant. :P However, it wasn't all that bad for me anyway. No rectal probes; they just made me take my shoes off and run a couple Xrays through me.

Try flying in the middle east and Europe, when every passenger is hand screened before entering the plane.

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Last post here, I promise:

The OP thread title says "Mandatory metal detectors".

Think about that for a moment.

In what world would optional metal detectors be in any way useful? Isn't that kind of redundant?

Let's see. If I were a criminal intending to use some weapon that would be caught by a metal detector, and they were present but merely optional, in what world would I voluntarily walk through the metal detector when I could enter the park another way not involving a metal detector?

:rofl:

And those blaming the government or the Orioles really have no idea: it's just the times we live in. It has nothing to do with the government or the Orioles. It was an MLB decision. If you really want to look for someone to blame, blame the several dozen or so people who have gone on mass violence rampages in densely packed areas (theaters, schools, college campuses, etc) over the past two decades or so.

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I made my first ever trip on an airplane (round trip) earlier this year, and traveled with someone who is TSA Prechecked. I'm not, but they are. Rather than staying with me through the non-precheck security measures, they separated from me. I was a little indignant. :P However, it wasn't all that bad for me anyway. No rectal probes; they just made me take my shoes off and run a couple Xrays through me.

Hahah valid points but.... you must have never flown to Canada I presume...

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