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Chase Headley 3B & Manny SS 2015

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My guess is both. There has not been one yet. I'll consider it a possibility after the first one.

The unions may not like them but they agreed to them in the last bargaining session. The agents are the ones who negotiate the contracts. Last year I'll bet there were more than a few regrets at not accepting the QOs.

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The unions may not like them but they agreed to them in the last bargaining session. The agents are the ones who negotiate the contracts. Last year I'll bet there were more than a few regrets at not accepting the QOs.

They may not like them and they may have made the concession with the idea that it would only be a tether for a very few mid level free agents and still recommend non acceptance. A good way to compromise. Get what you want in the negotiation and use the union power to limit what is given in return.

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They may not like them and they may have made the cons session with the idea that it would only be a tether for a very few mid level free agents and still recommend non acceptance. A good way to compromise. Get what you want in the negotiation and use the union power to limit what is given in return.

I can see that, but it's still only their idea. The agents and players are going to do what is in their interest and I can't believe some of them aren't reconsidering their previous stance on the QO itself.

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I can see that, but it's still only their idea. The agents and players are going to do what is in their interest and I can't believe some of them aren't reconsidering their previous stance on the QO itself.

Could be. We will see if anyone takes one.

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As others have said, QO Hardy. If he declines, try to sign Headley for one year (or two at most). If Headley won't agree to that, then maybe revisit Hardy or pursue other SS/3B options.

Whatever happens, I think it's fine for the Orioles to be flexible with Machado and not limit him to one position or another. Assuming Manny still wants to play SS, of course, make the best deal you can. If it's a 3B, then that's fine, I think the risk is worth it. You want the best left-side of the infield you can get. The best combination of good to great defense combined with competent offense (.240-.250 AVG at least, with at least .310-320ish OBP) should be what you're looking for in a SS/3B FA or trade. Slugging would be nice but I'd rather have decent OBP quite honestly.

I would bring back Flash again to spell or replace the left side or 2B in the event of an injury. His versatility is underrated and he can provide at least replacement-level WAR at any of these positions...which isn't something to take for granted in a util-man. I would only make Flash a starter if by some miracle you're able to re-sign Cruz...then you could probably take the hit to your offense (and in that scenario if you're real hard up for offense you could every fifth game or so play Davis at third with Manny at short and Pearce at first). Would be interesting if they go that route to see whether Manny would move to short with Flash going to 3rd or they keep Flash at short.

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Especially since Manny is coming back from another knee injury I just can't fathom any scenario where the O's think about moving him off of 3rd for 2015.

not trying to derail the discussion but that's how I see it. Headley would be intriguing otherwise, but the only way we look at adding more 3B is if something happens to Manny to slow his recovery.

The real question is SS, and that will depend on if Hardy is kept.........my gut keeps telling me he will be too expensive. :(

I had thought since 2012 that Manny would shift to SS at the end of Hardy's contract...until the second knee operation changed my mind. After Machado's most recent injury, I thought the Orioles would probably re-sign Hardy...until the back started acting up again. Now, I can't see re-signing Hardy or moving Manny to SS. Despite Headley's good defensive numbers, I do not foresee the Orioles signing him.

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