Miguel Gonzalez Out Bud Norris In For Game Three

[weams]

Not really disagreeing about Arrieta, but there were other favorable factors for Arrieta's FIP besides batted balls and one of the reasons Mckracken's numbers for batted balls work is that guys that consistently give up "meatballs" find themselves out of the majors and out of the statistical pool if they don't get it to together.

Nobody is saying that DIPS is uniform and/or there aren't gaps and/or outliars, but it is more stable than ERA on aggregate and lets not pretend ERA (and even the adjustments and massaging of ERA) doesn't have significant issues in evaluating pitcher effectiveness. Also, I don't think anyone is advocating FIP/DIPS be used "incorrecty", but it is a performance stat (like it or not).

What is Voros up to these days?

[CA-ORIOLE]

What is Voros up to these days?

No idea. Maybe Corn knows. He generally keeps up on the stuff better than me.

[Can_of_corn]

No idea. Maybe Corn knows. He generally keeps up on the stuff better then me.

Last I heard he was doing soccer stuff.

Baseball doesn't pay.

[CA-ORIOLE]

Last I heard he was doing soccer stuff.

Baseball doesn't pay.

Too bad. I do wonder what kind of impact these shifts have had on DIPS over the past few years. I would have to think that command pitchers might break out better.

[Crazysilver03]

Good reason to throw Tillman Monday then. Or Ubaldo. Either.

It just doesn't make sense to bring Tillman back on 3 days rest when a) I don't think he has ever gone on 3 days rest, b) not like he was lights out in the 1st game, c) it's not do or die, and d) you would still have Ubaldo and/or Gonzo.

[LookitsPuck]

I'm slightly warming up to this idea.