Ripken Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Cruz, like Hardy, is absolutely someone I want back unless the money requests are just silly. Nick isn't going anywhere. I'd be fine letting Davis go if Pearce and De Aza come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdbdotcom Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 How much would you give 34 year old Nelson Cruz? $12 million per for two years plus awards bonuses plus two vesting options based on games played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltfan Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Ryan Howard? The good thing for us is that Davis didn't wait until his giant contract to become terrible. After his 50 homer year, Howard's OPS's were 976, 881, 931 and 859. He hit 47, 48, and 45 homers. That's pretty damn good. I would never sign Davis to anything close to a Ryan Howard type extension. However, I would definitely not give up on the guy and release him as some here are suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltfan Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 $12 million per for two years plus awards bonuses plus two vesting options based on games played. If we get him for that than I take back everything I have said. However, I seriously doubt that any extension would be less than 3/45 (and that is conservative). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltman241 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 $12 million per for two years plus awards bonuses plus two vesting options based on games played. Basically this but for 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltfan Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Cruz, like Hardy, is absolutely someone I want back unless the money requests are just silly. Nick isn't going anywhere. I'd be fine letting Davis go if Pearce and De Aza come back. Why are you confident that Davis was a flash in the pan and Pearce isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BohKnowsBmore Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 After his 50 homer year, Howard's OPS's were 976, 881, 931 and 859. He hit 47, 48, and 45 homers. That's pretty damn good. I would never sign Davis to anything close to a Ryan Howard type extension. However, I would definitely not give up on the guy and release him as some here are suggesting. I'm with you. Why can't we bring everyone back? If we give Davis an arb offer, he, De Aza, Wieters, and Pearce will all be on one-year deals. Minor bump in payroll for one year is worth having a relative embarrassment of riches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltfan Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Basically this but for 3 years. Last year he wanted 4/75. I doubt you get him for 3/36 after the year that he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbionHero Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I just don't like the idea of giving a .700 OPS guy 600 at bats simply because he's had past success and one of Bucks guys. He looks back to the AAAA guy on Texas who was an easy strike out if you didn't make a bad pitch. We've done fine without him, and it would save money we could use elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP0861 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 To quote Orioles fans from the eighth inning, Game 1 of the ALDS:This is awesome! This is awesome! This is awesome! This is awesome! YES! Loved that. However, I don't think it reached the entire stadium. I heard it in 14 though. I think it started somewhere in that low digit corner but could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltman241 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Last year he wanted 4/75. I doubt you get him for 3/36 after the year that he had. I don't doubt it. I think the Adam Jones mantra of "how much is enough" and the value of the teams clubhouse, chemistry, and manager Buck Showalter make up the difference. Watch and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripken Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Why are you confident that Davis was a flash in the pan and Pearce isn't? Why are you putting words in my mouth? Davis cheated twice, Pearce won't want nearly as much money, and Walker is almost ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthRider Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Cruz would be foolish to not see what he can get in free agency. imho. But then again. He is a veteran with probably only a few more years left. He may have made enough money over the years and might be looking for a good place to play out his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene88 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I am in disbelief they signed Hardy to an extension. I think that will come back and bite them but they had no choice. A Cruz deal would really have me out of touch with reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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