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What reasonable expectation do you have for Matusz to improve? He's long since made the transition to the pen, he's work is already focused on getting lefties out. The only place he has to go to get more specialized would be a Jesse Orosco/Tony Fossas/Clay Rapada extreme LOOGY role where he faces one lefty per appearance. And that's not worth anything like $3M a year.

Honest Answer is none.

He is what he is, and his team has come.

i just wish he could have developed as they hoped he would.

But, bust, heck no.

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Not that ERA is very meaningfull, but 3.5 for a LOOGY is pretty terrible

for a LOOGY making 2.5 million it is horrid.

There is zero chance that the O's would go to arbitration with Brian Matusz

If he wanted to sign for 1 yr at like 900K maybe DD would have a slight interest

In a sport where #1 overall picks wash out on a non-infrequent basis Matusz does not count as a bust. Matusz isn't even the biggest disappointment in his draft class.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Also worth noting that McCoy has a minor league option remaining <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/orioles?src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="

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Honest Answer is none.

He is what he is, and his team has come.

i just wish he could have developed as they hoped he would.

Then why the repeated references to Britton and his experience this spring?

But, bust, heck no.

He certainly didn't live up to expectations, but he did make a major league career for himself. I do think that guys like Birdland and webbrick are far too quick to throw around terms like good riddance and bust and failure when the line between being a good major leaguer and a AAA player is often small, and it's not that Matusz forced the Orioles to draft him and then didn't do what he could to succeed.

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Then why the repeated references to Britton and his experience this spring?

He certainly didn't live up to expectations, but he did make a major league career for himself. I do think that guys like Birdland and webbrick are far too quick to throw around terms like good riddance and bust and failure when the line between being a good major leaguer and a AAA player is often small, and it's not that Matusz forced the Orioles to draft him and then didn't do what he could to succeed.

I see the two as similar, relievers in the pen, out of options and not living up to expectations.

Britton was less productive than Matusz was, but people see the #1 pick and not being a starting five as a failure.

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In a sport where #1 overall picks wash out on a non-infrequent basis Matusz does not count as a bust. Matusz isn't even the biggest disappointment in his draft class.

Tim Beckham was drafted 1st overall in 2008 and he's spent most of the past four years in AAA, now has a .708 OPS there.

Eric Hosmer, for all his postseason hype, has been worth 5.5 wins in four full years as a regular. He's been below average in three of four years. He was drafted before Matusz.

Kyle Skipworth, #6 overall, is 0-for-3 in the majors and hasn't been able to hit in 1400 AA/AAA PAs.

Yonder Alosno was the #7 pick, he's been worth 4 wins in parts of five seasons. He's a 1B who's never slugged .400 in a full season.

Gordon Beckham looks pretty much done at 27, was traded by the White Sox for a PTBNL.

Those were all top 10 picks along with Matusz.

And of course half the board was bitter when they took Matusz over Smoak, and Smoak has logged a whopping 1.0 rWAR in 2200 PAs. Matusz has been the better pick.

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Tim Beckham was drafted 1st overall in 2008 and he's spent most of the past four years in AAA, now has a .708 OPS there.

Eric Hosmer, for all his postseason hype, has been worth 5.5 wins in four full years as a regular. He's been below average in three of four years. He was drafted before Matusz.

Kyle Skipworth, #6 overall, is 0-for-3 in the majors and hasn't been able to hit in 1400 AA/AAA PAs.

Yonder Alosno was the #7 pick, he's been worth 4 wins in parts of five seasons. He's a 1B who's never slugged .400 in a full season.

Gordon Beckham looks pretty much done at 27, was traded by the White Sox for a PTBNL.

Those were all top 10 picks along with Matusz.

And of course half the board was bitter when they took Matusz over Smoak, and Smoak has logged a whopping 1.0 rWAR in 2200 PAs. Matusz has been the better pick.

JTrea81 for the win............... ooppss not really. :D

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Not really a good argument. He was stuck with him on the roster. And 60 games over two years while spending the entire time on the roster isn't a lot. The spot can be better utilized.

It was over 60 games per season, for a total of 120+ games in two seasons.

Sorry, if you are stuck with somebody, you don't run him out there, that much.

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