O's Claim LHP Patrick McCoy

[ShoelesJoe]

Don't understand the Matusz bashing here. My understanding is that Brian's problems started when the O's forced him to quicken his delivery to cut down on opposition stolen bases. I understand the economics of the situation, and expect Matusz to be gone ASAP, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if his next team tweaks his windup back to where it was in college and he becomes a dominant pitcher again. Hopefully that won't be for another AL East team, ala the Yankees.

[weams]

Don't understand the Matusz bashing here. My understanding is that Brian's problems started when the O's forced him to quicken his delivery to cut down on opposition stolen bases. I understand the economics of the situation, and expect Matusz to be gone ASAP, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if his next team tweaks his windup back to where it was in college and he becomes a dominant pitcher again. Hopefully that won't be for another AL East team, ala the Yankees.

None of that is true. Brian just is not that good. It has nothing to do with his TTTP. I'm not bashing him. He's just not worth 5 million. That's all. Not 3 either.

[Redskins Rick]

None of that is true. Brian just is not that good. It has nothing to do with his TTTP. I'm not bashing him. He's just not worth 5 million. That's all. Not 3 either.

I disagree, he might not be worth 5 million, which I agree.

But, to pitch 50+ innings and 3.48 ERA in MLB against MLB hitters, isn't what I would call, not that good.

[weams]

I disagree, he might not be worth 5 million, which I agree.

But, to pitch 50+ innings and 3.48 ERA in MLB against MLB hitters, isn't what I would call, not that good.

Ok. He's not great though. I think TJ is better. How about you?

[Can_of_corn]

None of that is true. Brian just is not that good. It has nothing to do with his TTTP. I'm not bashing him. He's just not worth 5 million. That's all. Not 3 either.

Pretty big coincidence that the delivery teaks, oblique injury and complete loss of change up all happened at once.

[backwardsk]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Also worth noting that McCoy has a minor league option remaining <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/orioles?src=hash">#orioles</a></p>? Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="

">October 31, 2014</a></blockquote>

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This is a good tidbit. Do people think they'll also convert Berry to relief?

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[Redskins Rick]

Ok. He's not great though. I think TJ is better. How about you?

I would never say Brian was great.

TJ has a brighter future.

[Can_of_corn]

This is a good tidbit. Do people think they'll also convert Berry to relief?

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Yes I do.

I don't think they are in a rush.

[scOtt]

Don't understand the Matusz bashing here. My understanding is that Brian's problems started when the O's forced him to quicken his delivery to cut down on opposition stolen bases. I understand the economics of the situation, and expect Matusz to be gone ASAP, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if his next team tweaks his windup back to where it was in college and he becomes a dominant pitcher again. Hopefully that won't be for another AL East team, ala the Yankees.

While many of our pitchers adjusted just fine to the quicker to the plate routine. Excuses.

[Bahama O's Fan]

I look at Brian much like I looked at Jim Johnson last postseason. He had a role, but was too expensive. I don't know if anyone figured JJ would flame out like he did. I think the premise is that you can get what Brian gives you at a much cheaper price and that money can go elsewhere. If we were going to pay him close to 5m in arbitration, then cut him and spend it wiser.

[Ruzious]

Don't understand the Matusz bashing here. My understanding is that Brian's problems started when the O's forced him to quicken his delivery to cut down on opposition stolen bases. I understand the economics of the situation, and expect Matusz to be gone ASAP, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if his next team tweaks his windup back to where it was in college and he becomes a dominant pitcher again. Hopefully that won't be for another AL East team, ala the Yankees.

So instead of Matusz bashing, you prefer Orioles coaching bashing - and consider yourself to be wiser. Wonderful.

[Ruzious]

I would never say Brian was great.

TJ has a brighter future.

TJ's about the same as Matusz, imo. He's probably making less, because he hasn't been around as long. He had a low ERA, but he allows too many base-runners, imo. And he's not exactly a kid with a high upside anymore.

[clapdiddy]

I look at Brian much like I looked at Jim Johnson last postseason. He had a role' date=' but was too expensive. I don't know if anyone figured JJ would flame out like he did. I think the premise is that you can get what Brian gives you at a much cheaper price and that money can go elsewhere. If we were going to pay him close to 5m in arbitration, then cut him and spend it wiser.[/quote']

This is pretty much how I feel. Matusz is a good, not great, LOOGY. I don't think he's even worth the 3.5M he would likely get at this point. I think he winds up getting signed to an NL team and gets converted back to a starter.

[Can_of_corn]

This is pretty much how I feel. Matusz is a good, not great, LOOGY. I don't think he's even worth the 3.5M he would likely get at this point. I think he winds up getting signed to an NL team and gets converted back to a starter.

I think he has a better shot at ending up in Japan or Korea then he does transitioning back to a starter in MLB.

[Bahama O's Fan]

I think Boston should sign him so Big Papi never has to face him again.