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Yankees gave David Robertson a qualifying offer this week.

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Elbren Hangout Grand Counsel

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Maybe he's the insane one and he turns it down.

Can he afford to turn that down though? Not only would he be giving up $15+ Mil. guaranteed, but he'd be attaching draft pick compensation to himself. That would put quite the dent in his plans for a long term, lucrative deal. Between Robertson and Cuddyer (wtf were they thinking? :confused:), I think we finally see someone accept the QO.

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Robertson is going to make 40+M this offseason, why in god's name would he accept that qualifying offer? Cuddyer, on the other hand, has no business turning it down.

Because the $15+ Mil. is guaranteed and only for one year. The "$40+ Mil." is not. Kyle Lohse, Ervin Santana, Ubaldo Jimenez and Nelson Cruz all thought they were "guaranteed" big money too. They quickly found out what the market is for a non-elite FA when you have draft pick compensation attached to you.

Robertson is a reliever. Yes, closers typically get big-money contracts, but how many teams are going to give up a 1st round pick for a guy that could potentially only give them 40 - 60 innings?

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Because the $15+ Mil. is guaranteed and only for one year. The "$40+ Mil." is not. Kyle Lohse, Ervin Santana, Ubaldo Jimenez and Nelson Cruz all thought they were "guaranteed" big money too. They quickly found out what the market is for a non-elite FA when you have draft pick compensation attached to you.

Robertson is a reliever. Yes, closers typically get big-money contracts, but how many teams are going to give up a 1st round pick for a guy that could potentially only give them 40 - 60 innings?

The market for closers has been tepid the last few years. Looks like amassing saves isn't as lucrative as in the past.

Would anyone rather have Robertson over Miller?

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If I was advising Robertson, I would tell him to accept and then to take an insurance policy on his arm.

I think he'd do better with a guaranteed $15M, and then go for a big contract next season. The insurance would hedge against injuries.

Last season showed that teams are reluctant to give up first round draft picks. Cruz, Morales, and Drew lost money by rejecting the qualifying offer. Santana was bailed out by the Braves because of an injury need.

I think Cuddyer should also accept the offer.

I think the others should reject the offer because they could get long term deals for a higher AAV than $15M.

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Players traded mid year don't have draft pick compensation attached. Nothing to do with position.

Absolutely. All the things that Theo taught folks when they were young have been ravaged. You can't build an organization that way anymore.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/explaining-qualifying-offers.html

http://beisbols.org/2014/10/31/2014-2015-qualifying-offer-primer/

A quick primer for those who are unfamiliar: Baseball’s newest collective bargaining agreement did away with the old Type A/B designations for free agent draft pick compensation. The newer system, which is now in its third year, allows teams to make qualifying offers to a player that has spent the entire season with that organization (i.e. players traded midseason are ineligible). That offer is set at the average salary of baseball’s 125 highest-paid players. Should the player reject, a new team will be required to forfeit its top unprotected pick to sign that player (the top 11 picks of this year’s draft are protected). His former team then receives a comp pick at the end of the first round.
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