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That's not just harsh, it's ridiculous. He was a consensus top 5 pick that year, so at the time it was completely justified. No real controversy there besides the normal "I think the guy taken at 6 was better than the guy taken at 3" stuff. Not even remotely close to a Hobgood, who some had as a late 1st rounder when he was taken in the top 10.

And even in retrospect, there are #1 overall picks in the last 10 years who have not/barely played in the majors, including several who've had plenty of time to progress through the minors. Tim Beckham, #1 overall out of that same draft class, has 8 MLB plate appearances despite spending most of the past four years in AAA.

Bleacher Report is consistently unimpressive.

I don't think they actually said he was the 7th worst pick, but that he was the 7th worst bust. It certainly was not a bad pick at the time.

Edit: they actually did say "worst draft busts (or decisions) of the past 10 years." Beckham was no. 5. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2074856-ranking-the-10-worst-mlb-draft-busts-of-decisions-of-the-past-10-years/page/11

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I don't think they actually said he was the 7th worst pick, but that he was the 7th worst bust. It certainly was not a bad pick at the time.

Edit: they actually did say "worst draft busts (or decisions) of the past 10 years." Beckham was no. 5. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2074856-ranking-the-10-worst-mlb-draft-busts-of-decisions-of-the-past-10-years/page/11

I'm not entirely sure of their definition of bust, and they could probably make it anything they want. But I'm not sure Matusz is one of the worst 10 Oriole draft busts of the past decade.

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The Camden Depot article is wrong when it says this is Matusz' last arbitration year. He is also arbitration eligible after the 2015 season.

I agree with posters that say that 3-4m is too much for a Loogy but if MLBTR is correct that he will likely make 2.7m this coming season, I could live with that.

I think the determination of whether Matusz gets tendered or not is whether DD feels he can acquire a lefthanded reliever that can get out both lefties and righties. If DD can do that on his budget than Matusz is likely gone. But if DD can't then Matusz will be back as a Loogy again next year.

Budget vs finding a experienced lefty that can get out the best lefties in the games is the issue IMO.

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I'm not entirely sure of their definition of bust, and they could probably make it anything they want. But I'm not sure Matusz is one of the worst 10 Oriole draft busts of the past decade.

Of course. Let's start with Tim Beckham. And follow up with Danny Hultzen or Barret Loux. I can go on of course. A career as a major league roster filler is more than most draft choices get.

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It wasn't until this year that I heard that Brian has Asthma, and I think that explain a lot

1. Pitched well in college in San Diego (low humididty, low pollen, low pollution).

2. Always looked flushed on hot Baltimore days (Baltimore off the scale pollen, high humidity, high air pollution)

I have to wonder if the medical staff new about his Asthma when they drafted him to be a TOR starting pitcher in Baltimore.

I don't think BMat will ever be a successful starter but I think he would be better for a California, Arizona, or Texas team (not Houston)

Very good points.

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It wasn't until this year that I heard that Brian has Asthma, and I think that explain a lot

1. Pitched well in college in San Diego (low humididty, low pollen, low pollution).

2. Always looked flushed on hot Baltimore days (Baltimore off the scale pollen, high humidity, high air pollution)

I have to wonder if the medical staff new about his Asthma when they drafted him to be a TOR starting pitcher in Baltimore.

I don't think BMat will ever be a successful starter but I think he would be better for a California, Arizona, or Texas team (not Houston)

I have read that pollen has become a real problem in Arizona. Apparently, retirees have brought their plants to the desert southwest with them.

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Of course. Let's start with Tim Beckham. And follow up with Danny Hultzen or Barret Loux. I can go on of course. A career as a major league roster filler is more than most draft choices get.

The difference between Hultzen and Matusz is that Hultzen got hurt. Matusz simply hasn't performed to expectations.

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And Matusz could hang on for another decade or more as a LOOGY.

I hope he does. I hope he has Jake Arrieta type success in the NL. My comment was about how I'm not ready to call Hultzen a bust. Matt Bush on the other hand...

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