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I would rather give Miller 4/32 than Cruz 4/70.

For sure. We could maybe get 80+ innings out of Miller if used as a stopper. That's a lot of top-of-the-shelf high leverage innings. I'm more willing to bet that Miller has figured something out and will deliver close-to-advertised over 4 years than I am that Cruz will deliver close-to-advertised over 4 years. (And) I mean no disrespect to Cruz.

He did everything that anyone of us could possibly have imagined him doing to fulfill his end of our 2014 contract. The beauty is that he and the Orioles can go into 2015 with no hard feelings and in fact a feeling of good will. We both delivered. The O's put played him regularly and gave him his chance at redemption on the 2nd highest stage in baseball. He helped get us there for an incredible bargain.

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Not sure but I tend to agree with Weams. I think they just decided to give Smyly a spot. 1) Verlander 2) Scherzer 3) Sanchez 4) Porcello 5) Smyly

made plenty of sense. They replaced Fister with the low salaried Smyly who they replaced with the high salaried Price.

Well they are really just replacing Scherzer with Price for 2015.

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Yeah, I'm with you. I don't understand why most people on here wouldn't be willing to give him that. He's possibly the best reliever in the game. 4/32 would be a steal IMO.

I'd give Miller that all day. He's the most dominant pitcher on the staff. He doesn't have to rely on his defense. Or a gimmick windeup. If Britton keeps the closer job over the next 3 years he's going to make an average of 7 million a year in 3 arbitration years. So you're telling me that Miller is only a million more. Dream scenario. Miller is a great backup plan as closer or any other role. We're not going to go out and sign an ace starter. So why not just have a dominant pen to hold the rotation together? Miller actually improves the rotation as well as the bullpen.

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I'd give Miller that all day. He's the most dominant pitcher on the staff. He doesn't have to rely on his defense. Or a gimmick windeup. If Britton keeps the closer job over the next 3 years he's going to make an average of 7 million a year in 3 arbitration years. So you're telling me that Miller is only a million more. Dream scenario. Miller is a great backup plan as closer or any other role. We're not going to go out and sign an ace starter. So why not just have a dominant pen to hold the rotation together? Miller actually improves the rotation as well as the bullpen.

What if Miller wants 10 million a year. What if he does?

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What if Miller wants 10 million a year. What if he does?

I love Miller and would love to have him back but nothing in DD history suggests to me that he is going to go all in on a RP

If there was one who would be worthy of consideration for doing that Miller kinda fits that bill. A LHP who can mow down RHB as easily as LHB. A guy who provides some insurance if your closer goes down etc...

That said there is a limit to what the value a guy has when you have some payroll limitations. I doubt that extends to 10 million a year. Much as I would love to see him back, I am sure DD would to but my guess is that the guy is as good as gone considering what his market is shaping up like.

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