What does Nick's departure say to the other players who we may want to retain?

[Frobby]

If it wasn't all about the money before (and maybe it was), it certainly is now. It's every man for himself next winter when Wieters, Davis, Chen, Norris and O'Day all hit the market. And I'm not holding my breath expecting Manny Machado to sign here long term unless we break the bank to make that happen.

Something ended yesterday. That doesn't mean the Orioles can't continue to be a very good team, but things are going to be different.

[Can_of_corn]

It tells them the O's have 10 more million a year they can spend.

Each negotiation is a unique beast and I don't think one particularly influences another.

[weams]

Since none of them ever take a qualifying offer and they always take the most money, years ( with VERY few exeptions) probably no impact.

[mdbdotcom]

I never expect the Orioles to sign their own players who reach free agency. That's why I've been preaching locking up Manny for two extra years since his rookie season. As far as I can see, nothing has changed and they all will be gone. In Manny's case, he'll be a very wealthy 26-year old.

[weams]

If it wasn't all about the money before (and maybe it was), it certainly is now. It's every man for himself next winter when Wieters, Davis, Chen, Norris and O'Day all hit the market. And I'm not holding my breath expecting Manny Machado to sign here long term unless we break the bank to make that happen.

Something ended yesterday. That doesn't mean the Orioles can't continue to be a very good team, but things are going to be different.

No question. Things will be different. My own aging curve teaches me that about my life as well.

[UMDTerrapins]

I think for all of the 2016 free agents it's going to be about the $ regardless, so this doesn't change that. I hope we can extend Chen or Norris this offseason, and it will be good for players to see that we want to keep some of this core together. I think my biggest worry in the clubhouse is A.J. He is signed long term at a contract that is below market value, and his tweet yesterday was pretty telling to me. It's important to me that he and the rest of the team don't sour on this move, which may well have been the right move, though not a very popular one.

[33rdst]

Reading the tweets from the players it was clear they were genuinely shocked. Do you think Hardy would have extended had Markakis been gone? With the handling of the Markakis signing Duquette has sent the message loud and clear. "It's a business fellows."

[weams]

If it wasn't all about the money before (and maybe it was), it certainly is now. It's every man for himself next winter when Wieters, Davis, Chen, Norris and O'Day all hit the market. And I'm not holding my breath expecting Manny Machado to sign here long term unless we break the bank to make that happen.

Something ended yesterday. That doesn't mean the Orioles can't continue to be a very good team, but things are going to be different.

Part of the whole thing is about Nick being vastly overpaid in his last contract. And we can't get out from under that. If he had been paid just even slightly less last time, I could see another player friendly deal being offered for all the good times.

[Can_of_corn]

Reading the tweets from the players it was clear they were genuinely shocked. Do you think Hardy would have extended had Markakis been gone? With the handling of the Markakis signing Duquette has sent the message loud and clear. "It's a business fellows."

Sure. Why wouldn't he have?

The players don't have to be told it is a business, they know it is. It is the fans that need to be told, repeatedly.

[Can_of_corn]

Part of the whole thing is about Nick being vastly overpaid in his last contract. And we can't get out from under that. If he had been paid just even slightly less last time, I could see another player friendly deal being offered for all the good times.

Was he? Sure he was the last couple of years but was he overpaid over the length of the contract?

[weams]

Sure. Why wouldn't he have?

The players don't have to be told it is a business, they know it is. It is the fans that need to be told, repeatedly.

When my coworkers get a raise, or make more money, it often occurs to me that might have been my money if only I had worked harder. It does not lead me to believe that there is now extra for me.

[Can_of_corn]

When my coworkers get a raise, or make more money, it often occurs to me that might have been my money if only I had worked harder. It does not lead me to believe that there is now extra for me.

And folks are calling Nick a throwback!

[weams]

Was he? Sure he was the last couple of years but was he overpaid over the length of the contract?

It felt like it. I don't know. Maybe I am the only one who sees it that way.

[weams]

And folks are calling nick a throwback!

OG.

[Can_of_corn]

It felt like it. I don't know. Maybe I am the only one who sees it that way.

There are plenty of folks that feel that way, I just don't know if it is accurate. I don't feel like going year by year checking for excess value or I would find out. To do it right you would have to look up the value of a win each year and keep a tally. Sounds like work.