TSN's Deveney's Take on Roberts-Cubs

[Number5]

Yeah I'd be fine with losing Pie to add Roberts and Greene.

The Cubs would be much less interested in Peralta than Roberts, and you're asking for a guy that the Cubs won't give up for Roberts, so that three-way doesn't get anywhere.

I'm sure that you would, but how is that gonna happen?

[davearm]

I'm sure that you would, but how is that gonna happen?

Pads take Pie and Cedeno for Greene.

O's take three or four of the usual suspects for Roberts.

Voila.

[nyjimbo]

Pads take Pie and Cedeno for Greene.

O's take three or four of the usual suspects for Roberts.Voila.

Suspects! You said it not me. Now you're finally seeing the O's fans side of it.

[davearm]

Suspects! You said it not me. Now you're finally seeing the O's fans side of it.

It's just a figure of speech. Sheesh.

[bluehens45]

Dave, do you think Jeff Samardzija's name has ever come up in trade talks? How high are the cubs on him? Do you think he turns out to be a stud? I wonder if the orioles have interest in him? If im the O's i take a risk on some lower ranked prospects such as Huseby, Donaldson, and Ceda. Man im really starting to like Colvin rather have him than Murton, unless Scott of Murton are flipped.

[davearm]

I'm certain Samardzija's name has not come up.

First, he's got a NTC.

Second, his huge contract functions as a NTC anyway.

The Cubs are high on him.

I am not. I think he's going to be a bust, personally.

[Sports Guy]

Yeah I'd be fine with losing Pie to add Roberts and Greene.

The Cubs would be much less interested in Peralta than Roberts, and you're asking for a guy that the Cubs won't give up for Roberts, so that three-way doesn't get anywhere.

Why would they be interested in Greene but not Peralta?

[Attack Poodle]

I have a feeling that Murton isn't gonna be in a trade for Roberts,it's gonna be more like Gallagher,Marquis,Cedano and Fontenot for Roberts and Payton

[davearm]

Why would they be interested in Greene but not Peralta?

Um, because Greene's much better than Peralta?

Vastly superior defense and an .850 OPS away from Petco, compared to Peralta's .703 away from Jacobs Field.

You're really overrating Peralta lately, IMO.

[Number5]

I have a feeling that Murton isn't gonna be in a trade for Roberts,it's gonna be more like Gallagher,Marquis,Cedano and Fontenot for Roberts and Payton

Why would the Orioles do that?

[Sports Guy]

Um, because Greene's much better than Peralta?

Vastly superior defense and an .850 OPS away from Petco, compared to Peralta's .703 away from Jacobs Field.

You're really overrating Peralta lately, IMO.

Peralta is younger and cheaper. Btw, not sure how i am overrating him...I expect around a 800 OPS and average defense.

And the Cubs seem to value BRob more than Greene, so if that is the case, why not argue they should give up Pie for BRob?

Are you arguing what YOU want or what the CUBS want?

[JTrea81]

Peralta is younger and cheaper. Btw, not sure how i am overrating him...I expect around a 800 OPS and average defense.

And the Cubs seem to value BRob more than Greene, so if that is the case, why not argue they should give up Pie for BRob?

Are you arguing what YOU want or what the CUBS want?

Not to mention Greene would be unlikely to extend with the Cubs because he wants to play on the East Coast. I think the Cubs could extend Roberts if they win with him, especially because Roberts' offseason home is in Arizona which is where the Cubs have ST.

[NCRaven]

I wonder if a 3 way deal would work.

No kidding...I'm shocked!

[Number5]

Pads take Pie and Cedeno for Greene.

O's take three or four of the usual suspects for Roberts.

Voila.

Pie and Cedeno for Greene, but you won't include Pie in a deal for Roberts? You are losing me there, Dave.

[davearm]

Peralta is younger and cheaper. Btw, not sure how i am overrating him...I expect around a 800 OPS and average defense.

And the Cubs seem to value BRob more than Greene, so if that is the case, why not argue they should give up Pie for BRob?

Are you arguing what YOU want or what the CUBS want?

Look you asked me if I would be okay with Fuld in CF, and my answer is yes, provided two significant upgrades are made: Roberts is the obvious one, and Greene could be the other.

Now if some combination of deals is arranged that lands those two players in Chicago, and Pie winds up in Baltimore, that's fine by me.

Between KG and JP, the money and age is pretty inconsequential. Both are reasonably priced and in their prime years. If that was a primary concern, then I'd just keep Pie, who's obviously youngest and cheapest. I want the guy that's significantly better. That's Greene. Peralta I'm suspect of; certainly more than you are.