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People really hate Reynolds that much? Besides being a little cocky and arrogant, I think he does an outstanding job breaking down what's going on and what players are thinking in certain situations. He also does a great job of picking up on the little nuances that occur all the time but often go unnoticed, such as players signaling to each other or opponents chirping at each other throughout the game, story lines to look for later in games etc.

I do think he is stubborn and likes to declare things in a definite matter rather quickly, and rarely every admitting he is wrong. This does annoy me but overall I think he points out a lot of things that as a fan, and as someone who thinks baseball sometimes needs more explanation to help educate novice fans, I appreciate it.

Out of curiosity, which analysts do people actually like from MLBtv?

Also, the graphic is kinda funny...

I'm pretty OK with the ones that are not former players.

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He's right beneath Hawk Harrelson for me in terms of the worst talking heads in baseball. And he might be number 1 because I rarely have to hear Hawk Harrelson.

Haha we probably wouldn't get along well, I think Hawk is awesome and love his homer emotion that comes through. There is no faking his love for his team and the game itself. He is a TV announcer so I cut him a lot of slack.

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Haha we probably wouldn't get along well, I think Hawk is awesome and love his homer emotion that comes through. There is no faking his love for his team and the game itself. He is a TV announcer so I cut him a lot of slack.

I like Harrelson, also.

The White Sox are my 2nd favorite team though, so I am biased.

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People really hate Reynolds that much? Besides being a little cocky and arrogant, I think he does an outstanding job breaking down what's going on and what players are thinking in certain situations. He also does a great job of picking up on the little nuances that occur all the time but often go unnoticed, such as players signaling to each other or opponents chirping at each other throughout the game, story lines to look for later in games etc.

I do think he is stubborn and likes to declare things in a definite matter rather quickly, and rarely every admitting he is wrong. This does annoy me but overall I think he points out a lot of things that as a fan, and as someone who thinks baseball sometimes needs more explanation to help educate novice fans, I appreciate it.

Out of curiosity, which analysts do people actually like from MLBtv?

Also, the graphic is kinda funny...

I'm with you Johnny. I don't get the Reynolds hate. And he's been right on a number of things since I've seen him on MLB network.

I thought the graphic was funny too.

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From what I've seen, I think Mark De Rosa is pretty well spoken and seem pretty smart. SSS Reynolds is not smart. Of course he's right sometimes. He changes his opinion everyday depending on who is hot and who is not.

"I will argue this forever."

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/7417714/v26383059/harold-kenny-on-whether-pitcher-wins-is-helpful-stat

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From what I've seen, I think Mark De Rosa is pretty well spoken and seem pretty smart. SSS Reynolds is not smart. Of course he's right sometimes. He changes his opinion everyday depending on who is hot and who is not.

Al Leiter, Bill Ripken, John Smoltz come to mind too. Bear in mind I don't need these guys to be saber-heads, I like their insights into the game.

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I don't like many of the former players except for Eric Byrnes, Gabe Kapler, and maybe Mike Lowell. Reynolds and Chris Russo are awful. Most of the others are bearable and only say stupid things sometimes, as opposed to every time they are on.

Kapler left to take a job with a team.

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I don't like many of the former players except for Eric Byrnes, Gabe Kapler, and maybe Mike Lowell. Reynolds and Chris Russo are awful. Most of the others are bearable and only say stupid things sometimes, as opposed to every time they are on.

Yeah what happened to Eric Byrnes? He actually bought into sabermetrics to an extent. I haven't seen him in some time.

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I don't like many of the former players except for Eric Byrnes, Gabe Kapler, and maybe Mike Lowell. Reynolds and Chris Russo are awful. Most of the others are bearable and only say stupid things sometimes, as opposed to every time they are on.

Gabe Kapler is the worst. He does absolutely nothing but regurgitate SABR stats, he brings nothing, and I mean nothing else to his broadcast. Gabe, what do think about the matchup tonight? Well, Tillman's xFIP is 4.37 and the opposing team has a BABIP of .349 with a team OPS of .792 against RHP while playing on grass. He's awful. He tries to sound smart, but then, so do a lot of people. It's pretty easy to regurgitate other people's work and not have your own opinion on something.

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Gabe Kapler is the worst. He does absolutely nothing but regurgitate SABR stats, he brings nothing, and I mean nothing else to his broadcast. Gabe, what do think about the matchup tonight? Well, Tillman's xFIP is 4.37 and the opposing team has a BABIP of .349 with a team OPS of .792 against RHP while playing on grass. He's awful. He tries to sound smart, but then, so do a lot of people. It's pretty easy to regurgitate other people's work and not have your own opinion on something.

I appreciate people trying to bring stats to the masses, and I thought it carried more weight coming from a former player at that. Regurgitating relevant stats is better analysis than Harold Reynolds yelling about how Joey Votto walks too much or Chris Russo saying Mike Trout is a nice little player but he doesn't get why he's talked about so much 10 times out of 10.

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Thank you. What a funny and uncomfortable clip to watch. I felt sorry for Harold because "he's not smart". Whether you like Brian Kenney (?) or not, that was like Muhammad Ali against an amateur flyweight. Is that show still on? I watched it a couple of times but it was just like this clip. Kenney gives you the sabermetric side of an argument but Reynolds is not a worth adversary to even try to give you the other side. That was awful and great at the same time. Look at the look at Reynolds face. It's like he jumped in the deep end of the pool and just remembered he can't swim.

That clip is a must watch. LOL

That's exactly what is so sad about it. MAYBE there is an argument to be had for the "win" stat, but Reynolds isn't intellectually capable of making it.

Reynolds is now on Hot Stove in the morning.

Kenny is still on the show, but they surround him with a bunch of people who basically think like Reynolds, and I think he basically just doesn't want to rock the boat too much with them. Every now and then he trains to explain the value of OBP or something, and they laugh at him, and he moves on.

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I appreciate people trying to bring stats to the masses, and I thought it carried more weight coming from a former player at that. Regurgitating relevant stats is better analysis than Harold Reynolds yelling about how Joey Votto walks too much or Chris Russo saying Mike Trout is a nice little player but he doesn't get why he's talked about so much 10 times out of 10.

Not shocked at all you'd be a Kapler fan. SABR stats have been brought to the masses way before Kapler. He's a drone.

Edit: Didn't mean this to sound insulting if it did, I just know you are a big SABR fan, etc.

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