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Denying permission is where the issue came up though. Personally, I think Angelos has handled this whole thing terribly. I believe he should have allowed him to interview and discuss compensation if he's hired, like with Theo Epstein. Acting like a child by saying over and over again "He's mine! He agreed to stay here so he's mine! You can't have him!" is the worst way to handle this and makes the Orioles organization look bad.

There was no position available. Beeston was never officially announced as being out of the position, then it was announced he was coming back. There was no open position then, nor is there one now.

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Denying permission is where the issue came up though. Personally, I think Angelos has handled this whole thing terribly. I believe he should have allowed him to interview and discuss compensation if he's hired, like with Theo Epstein. Acting like a child by saying over and over again "He's mine! He agreed to stay here so he's mine! You can't have him!" is the worst way to handle this and makes the Orioles organization look bad.

Chicago literally denied their GM permission for this exact same job.

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Chicago literally denied their GM permission for this exact same job.

I'm not saying they didn't do the wrong thing too. Plus it almost made Kenny Williams resign because executives are expected to be allowed to interview for promotions.

That makes me wonder though... could Duquette just resign and take this job or is there something in his contract that doesn't let him resign?

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Denying permission is where the issue came up though. Personally, I think Angelos has handled this whole thing terribly. I believe he should have allowed him to interview and discuss compensation if he's hired, like with Theo Epstein. Acting like a child by saying over and over again "He's mine! He agreed to stay here so he's mine! You can't have him!" is the worst way to handle this and makes the Orioles organization look bad.

Potter has his own style. But, I will say, I support his position in this instance. Potter is doing what he truly believes to be in the best interest his organization, period. What MLB thinks or some fans think or other organizations think or even his own employees think is not usually part of that decision making. In fairness to Potter, your approach would have led the Orioles to a very different position in regards to MLB/Washington/MASN and cost his business (the Orioles) a great deal of money. Angelos took huge corporations through the wringer for the fun (and money) of it, and he handles negotiations differently than non elite lawyers would. Namely, the other side needs to always worry that Potter might just might make it so painful for them that they may want to think twice about their position. DD also better think carefully even if he leaves that he may find himself in a world of legal hurt that he has never dreamed of.

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So did we. And then the Jays decided Duquette was their man. Gotta wonder how they chose between Williams and Duquette when they were denied permission to speak to both.

Yes, if it turns out Duquette does leave, and there was ANY tampering ...well, I am sure that the language of DD's contract (drawn up and micromanaged by Potter himself) would allow for quite a few legal processes to ensue from tampering, breaching contract, etc. etc. I am pretty sure that there isn't any opt out clause. And the Jays need to be disciplined by MLB. If this were the Yankees and we were trying to do the same to Cashman, the FBI would be involved.

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I personally think the way Toronto has handled this is extremely improper. They have their CEO in limbo. They have not renewed his contract which expired in October' date=' but have allowed him to continue to work on the job "paycheck to paycheck". If you want someone else, fire the man and let him know what's going down. You then approach Peter about DD. Peter says "No". Professionally, you have two options, forget Dan or ask Peter, "What would it take to get you to change your mind?" If he says nothing, then move on. Don't leak stories to the press and go to MLB saying you want to hire him.[/quote']

I agree with this, too. I understand that DD has proven himself again with what he's done with the Orioles, and other teams would definitely be interested in seeing what he can do with their team, but he signed a contract with Baltimore for a period of time. If the Orioles told the Jays, "No", and are now trying to use the media to pressue the Orioles and by extension DD, then this is really underhanded business.

If the Jays are that desperate to find someone and are that willing to give up substantial personnel to get DD, then they should instead try something like pony up a ton of cash to convince Gillick to go back there.

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Just looking at the Jays roster. Would you trade Duquette for Daniel Norris, Dalton Pompey, and Jeff Hoffman?

Just curious. I think that would be a great deal.

LOL Pipe dream Jays won't.

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