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Duquette's silence on the matter is all telling. He could easily diffuse the situation by saying he has zero interest in joining the Jays organization and that he is the Baltimore GM and he is committed to remaining in that capacity. By not doing that it makes it perfectly clear that he wants the Toronto job and if Angelos doesn't let him leave Duquette's not going to be a very happy camper. Why would you want a GM who doesn't want to be here? Let him go.

Duquette said all of that at the winter meetings. I guess it wasn't enough to say it once. Maybe he'll need to tweet it every 10 minutes or something.

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Yeah, maybe one of them if we're lucky. Remember people, Epstein was a very indemand GM and all the Red Sox got for him was a AAA depth player. We're not getting a bunch of top prospects for a suit.

Theo was also in the last year of his deal with the Sox and there was a lot of drama prior to that move. Boston wanted to move him. DD has four years left, just named GM of the year and this is a division rival.

The Orioles would be stupid not to demand the moon, and the Jays would be moronic to give it to them. The fact that they even seem to be considering sending even one top prospect to the Orioles is evidence enough to me that the Jays are a completely clueless organization.

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Yeah, maybe one of them if we're lucky. Remember people, Epstein was a very indemand GM and all the Red Sox got for him was a AAA depth player. We're not getting a bunch of top prospects for a suit.

This is nothing like the Epstein situation. DD has 4 years on his contract, Epstein had 1. This is the middle of the offseason, Epstein was dealt at the beginning I believe. This is between division rivals unlike Epstein. The Orioles will get 1 very highly rated prospect for DD.

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Theo was also in the last year of his deal with the Sox and there was a lot of drama prior to that move. Boston wanted to move him. DD has four years left, just named GM of the year and this is a division rival.

The Orioles would be stupid not to demand the moon, and the Jays would be moronic to give it to them. The fact that they even seem to be considering sending even one top prospect to the Orioles is evidence enough to me that the Jays are a completely clueless organization.

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He didn't say any such thing to diffuse the situation. He basically said that he's under contract and committed to the Orioles as long as he's working for them. At no time has he said that he wants to be here for the next 4 years and has no interest in leaving.

He certainly did say that he had every intention of fulfilling his contract. He never flat out said he didn't want the Jays job, but every other point in the post I quoted he indeed did say on MLB Radio.

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Yeah, maybe one of them if we're lucky. Remember people, Epstein was a very indemand GM and all the Red Sox got for him was a AAA depth player. We're not getting a bunch of top prospects for a suit.

Theo had 1 year left and went to the NL different story here.

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This is nothing like the Epstein situation. DD has 4 years on his contract, Epstein had 1. This is the middle of the offseason, Epstein was dealt at the beginning I believe. This is between division rivals unlike Epstein. The Orioles will get 1 very highly rated prospect for DD.

I agree its not very similar to the Epstein situation, but it also is the best comparison we have. I agree we'll get more than Epstein was worth because of what you said, but to go from a middling AAA reliever to 3 top prospects is crazy. 1 good prospect is likely the max we could be looking at here, and even that might be a stretch.

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The constant need for people to compare this to the Epstein move (not just here, but nationally) boggles my mind. There are almost zero similarities beyond the surface.

Supply and demand. If the Jays decide he isn't worth much more than Epstein, then thats what he's worth. Maybe we'll get to keep our guy (or MLB will jump in and force a move), but then we'll have to deal with a "Toxic" environment in the front office according to Roch. Eventually we'll have to settle for less if thats all the Jays are willing to give up.

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People have asked repeatedly in this thread who would be handling the discussions of compensation on the O's part. That's an interesting question, with some obvious answers. But who do you think is handling such discussions on behalf of the Blue Jays, a GM and CEO who are likely to lose their jobs if agreement is reached? What would their incentive be for reaching agreement? Or someone above both of them in the Rogers group, who may not know that much about the details of Blue Jays' prospects?

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