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Time to Get Fowler? (Traded to Cubs)


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Reports are surfacing that it was for Dan Strailey. To which I say, we couldn't have beaten that offer with Miguel Gonzalez? Please.
I think it will be Strailey +.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source: Luis Valbuena going to Astros along with Dan Straily in deal for Dexter Fowler.</p>— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="

">January 19, 2015</a></blockquote>

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I think it will be Strailey +.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source: Luis Valbuena going to Astros along with Dan Straily in deal for Dexter Fowler.</p>— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="

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Okay. Well, Valbuena's not a bad player. I wonder if this makes third base Kris Bryant's spot to lose in ST.

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This off-season stinks. We come off an ALCS trip and then do nothing to take the next step. Yeah you can make a case for each move that it wasn't good for the future. But only adding Wesley Wright and Dave Navarro also is way worse for the future. Maybe the reason why DD wants to leave is that he works for an owner that doesn't care about winning, and only cares about making as much money as he possibly can. The Nats are so similar to us it's not even funny. Both teams are playoff caliber teams. We share a Network. How can they afford to spend so much even if we split MASN 50/50? Which we dont.

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This off-season stinks. We come off an ALCS trip and then do nothing to take the next step.

There is no next step. The difference between an ALCS team and a World Series team is good fortune. You can't throw money at a playoff team to guarantee a World Series, it doesn't work that way.

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I think it will be Strailey +.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source: Luis Valbuena going to Astros along with Dan Straily in deal for Dexter Fowler.</p>— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="

">January 19, 2015</a></blockquote>

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This is a perfect example of what DD was talking about earlier in the offseason when he said the FA route was more promising. In this deal, you have to give up 2 players (in this case both MLB ready and with considerable team control) and still pay the guy you get back 9 million. And then he's gone. Rasmus, as slow as that route is, and as limited as he is as a player, is only 7 or so million and done. It's a no brainer, despite Fowler's preferred speed and OBP.

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I wouldn't have given them Miguel Gonzalez for Fowler.

Agreed. Nor would I.

The Orioles need to keep their controllable players. With Chen and Norris Free Agents next year, the Orioles should not deal away another 2016 starting option. Going into next year, the O's will have Tillman, Gonzo, Gausman and Jimenez as hold overs with Bundy hopefully breaking into the rotation this year along with Davies, Berry and/or Wright as depth (and/or pen arms).

I think if you move Gonzo this year, you have to start worrying about rotation depth next off season. With Wieters and Davis free agents along with others, i don't want the Birds to create even more long term holes.

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I'd trade Gonzalez for him too.

You have to trade good players/assets to receive them in return.

That's a pretty generic statement. Gonzo could easily have more value to us than Fowler. Add in the additional years of team control, and it becomes an easy decision, IMO.

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I'm just saying people can't actually expect us to get good players for mid-low level prospects and scraps.

That doesn't mean we trade guys with more value than we are receiving.

Also, when those "good players" provide little value above their compensation, and are out the door the next year, it's not the best idea to trade guys you have for multiple years.

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And if he is a key cog in winning a championship, nobody will care. It's a risk that teams who care about winning have to take sometimes.

And if he's redundant, and not much of an upgrade, it will be a poor move. If you think Fowler is the missing piece to a championship, then wouldn't most any other 2 win player be the same? Admit it, this is mostly about complaining for the sake of complaining.

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