mdbdotcom Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 With spring training 2015 about to get underway, this will probably be the last spring training Matt Wieters spends with the Orioles, at least until the big free agent contract he signs after this season has ended. Maybe Matt will come back some day as a veteran presence catch and throw guy at the end of his career. Or, maybe he'll return to lead the O's in another way. Right now the 30 major league managers include 14 catchers: Joe Girardi Kevin Cash John Gibbons Brad Ausmus Ned Yost A. J. Hinch Mike Scioscia Bob Melvin Jeff Banister Fredi Gonz?lez Mike Redmond Joe Maddon Mike Matheny Bruce Bochy Clearly, catching is the a good first step to becoming a manager. I could easily see Matt as a manager some day. He has the understanding of the game, commitment to detail, and ability to share what he knows that managing demands, along with the quiet confidence with which he carries himself. I'm hoping Wieters puts up a monster season that helps carry the O's to the World Series this year and then goes on to a long and fine career (in the National League). And someday, after Buck has retired from the job, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him return as manager of the Orioles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdbdotcom Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Mods, would you mind adding an 's' at the end of his name in the title? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My question would be, for a guy like Wieters who probably will have made in excess of $100 mm playing baseball once he hangs up his cleats, will he have the drive to live the life of a manager and do all that traveling? If you look at most managers and coaches, they are guys who never really got paid huge amounts of money as players, and actually need the income to support their families. There are exceptions, but not too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdbdotcom Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 My question would be, for a guy like Wieters who probably will have made in excess of $100 mm playing baseball once he hangs up his cleats, will he have the drive to live the life of a manager and do all that traveling? If you look at most managers and coaches, they are guys who never really got paid huge amounts of money as players, and actually need the income to support their families. There are exceptions, but not too many. That's a good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayor McCheese Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Unless his career is cut short due to injury or something. I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I mean, there are guys who just have the passion for the game. Matt Williams made $79 mm playing baseball and yet he's managing the Nats. Brad Ausmus made $36 mm and he's managing the Tigers. Ryne Sandberg made $25 mm and he's managing the Phillies. Joe Girardi made $21 m and he's managing the Yankees. I doubt any of those guys actually have to work, but they have the passion so they do it. Still, it's pretty rare, so I wouldn't expect Wieters to be one of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobmc Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My question would be, for a guy like Wieters who probably will have made in excess of $100 mm playing baseball once he hangs up his cleats, will he have the drive to live the life of a manager and do all that traveling? If you look at most managers and coaches, they are guys who never really got paid huge amounts of money as players, and actually need the income to support their families. There are exceptions, but not too many. That :agree: It would be interesting to see if he gets to the point where he wants to mentor his son Maverick to be a MLB'er or instead wants to grind it out as Frobby mentioned. Are any of the multi-million dollar guys out there coaching? Perhaps the guys who "threw it all away"? :scratchchinhmm: The TV "analyst" is the best course IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weams Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My question would be, for a guy like Wieters who probably will have made in excess of $100 mm playing baseball once he hangs up his cleats, will he have the drive to live the life of a manager and do all that traveling? If you look at most managers and coaches, they are guys who never really got paid huge amounts of money as players, and actually need the income to support their families. There are exceptions, but not too many. Very good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beervendor Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My question would be, for a guy like Wieters who probably will have made in excess of $100 mm playing baseball once he hangs up his cleats, will he have the drive to live the life of a manager and do all that traveling? If you look at most managers and coaches, they are guys who never really got paid huge amounts of money as players, and actually need the income to support their families. There are exceptions, but not too many. This was my immediate thought when I read the OP title. Wouldn't guess the Ausmuses, Scocias, or Girardis are in any financial need (though Ted Lilly's shenanigans may imply the possibility), but there aren't really any "star" players who become managers. Surely Frank Robinson is an exception, though from a very different economic time in baseball history. I'll give you Matt Williams perhaps. Cal is a perfect example of a superstar who made a boatload of cash playing and we'd all expect to give managing a stab at some point. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Rick Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Let's see, Orioles catchers who went on to be good managers: Johnny Oates, Bob Melvin. Who else am I missing? Catchers make good managers, they are used to seeing the big pictures and managing the game while on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I mean, there are guys who just have the passion for the game. Matt Williams made $79 mm playing baseball and yet he's managing the Nats. Brad Ausmus made $36 mm and he's managing the Tigers. Slightly off-topic, but Ausmus is one of the classiest players or managers around. Good leadership on and off the field can be found in any position, but Ausmus has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Slightly off-topic, but Ausmus is one of the classiest players or managers around. Good leadership on and off the field can be found in any position, but Ausmus has it. I pitied him in the ALDS last year, trying to manage against Buck with that horrific bullpen he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohfan67 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 A lot of the guys on that list were pretty hard nose kind of players. Not sure if Wieters is really that kind of guy. He's pretty tough blocking the plate, but it's a lot easier to be a tough player when you are built like an NFL linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I pitied him in the ALDS last year, trying to manage against Buck with that horrific bullpen he had. I couldn't tell how Ausmus was feeling because they were showing more shots of Kate Upton than him in Game 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tx Oriole Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 With spring training 2015 about to get underway, this will probably be the last spring training Matt Wieters spends with the Orioles, at least until the big free agent contract he signs after this season has ended. Maybe Matt will come back some day as a veteran presence catch and throw guy at the end of his career. Or, maybe he'll return to lead the O's in another way. Right now the 30 major league managers include 14 catchers: Joe Girardi Kevin Cash John Gibbons Brad Ausmus Ned Yost A. J. Hinch Mike Scioscia Bob Melvin Jeff Banister Fredi Gonz?lez Mike Redmond Joe Maddon Mike Matheny Bruce Bochy Clearly, catching is the a good first step to becoming a manager. I could easily see Matt as a manager some day. He has the understanding of the game, commitment to detail, and ability to share what he knows that managing demands, along with the quiet confidence with which he carries himself. I'm hoping Wieters puts up a monster season that helps carry the O's to the World Series this year and then goes on to a long and fine career (in the National League). And someday, after Buck has retired from the job, I wouldn't at all mind seeing him return as manager of the Orioles. Maybe he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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