And Machado snickers

[mdbdotcom]

Josh Donaldson lost his arbitration hearing. Will make $4.3 mill instead of the $5.75 he'd requested.

He seems like the perfect Blue Jay.

[scOtt]

I hope he's matured enough to not snicker.

[AlbionHero]

-Jonathan Schoop: 'I think I'm a better player than last year'

-And Machado snickers

Seeing these two topics right next to eachother probably wasn't done on purpose but it made me laugh.

[AlbionHero]

I hope he's matured enough to not snicker.

If anything Machado would want him to make the bigger money since hes a good comparison for when Machado hits arbitration next year.

[MurphDogg]

If anything Machado would want him to make the bigger money since hes a good comparison for when Machado hits arbitration next year.

Exactly. This is bad news for Machado (and good news for the Orioles).

[scOtt]

If anything Machado would want him to make the bigger money since hes a good comparison for when Machado hits arbitration next year.

Was gonna say... MLBPA union brothers stand strong together!

[terps19]

Exactly. This is bad news for Machado (and good news for the Orioles).

Geez bad news making $4+ million must be a hard life!

[Babypowder]

If he still holds a grudge about Donaldson doing absolutely nothing to him, I'd be very concerned.

Side note: Did Orioles fans really start disliking Donaldson over tagging Machado in a completely normal fashion? I don't recall him doing anything else that would cause contempt from Baltimore-ans.

[Can_of_corn]

If he still holds a grudge about Donaldson doing absolutely nothing to him, I'd be very concerned.

Side note: Did Orioles fans really start disliking Donaldson over tagging Machado in a completely normal fashion? I don't recall him doing anything else that would cause contempt from Baltimore-ans.

I think some of his comments to the press were uncalled for. He had the chance to take the high road and chose not to.

[Frobby]

If anything Machado would want him to make the bigger money since hes a good comparison for when Machado hits arbitration next year.

That was my thinking as well. I'm not sure how Machado will be able argue to make more than $4.3 mm next year, when you consider that Donaldson is coming off back to back seasons of 7+ rWAR. He'd sure have to have a heck of a season.

[Frobby]

If he still holds a grudge about Donaldson doing absolutely nothing to him, I'd be very concerned.

Side note: Did Orioles fans really start disliking Donaldson over tagging Machado in a completely normal fashion? I don't recall him doing anything else that would cause contempt from Baltimore-ans.

I think some of his comments to the press were uncalled for. He had the chance to take the high road and chose not to.

I chalk it all up to things that happened in the heat of the moment. I think everyone on both sides should just forget about it and move on.

[MurphDogg]

That was my thinking as well. I'm not sure how Machado will be able argue to make more than $4.3 mm next year, when you consider that Donaldson is coming off back to back seasons of 7+ rWAR. He'd sure have to have a heck of a season.

Donaldson was a super-two this season and Machado will have completed his third year, so the situation is not quite analogous. Still, I can't see Machado getting much more than $5 million in 2016.

[weams]

That was my thinking as well. I'm not sure how Machado will be able argue to make more than $4.3 mm next year, when you consider that Donaldson is coming off back to back seasons of 7+ rWAR. He'd sure have to have a heck of a season.

Do they base the determination on rWAR?

[Frobby]

Do they base the determination on rWAR?

I don't know what the arbitrators consider. They are certainly allowed to consider it, and I am 100% certain it would not be the sole basis for a determination, and probably not the primary one, either. Still, rWAR doesn't just pop out of the air. Donaldson had an .887 and .798 OPS the last two years, with 20+ HR and 90+ RBI each season, finishing 4th and 8th in the MVP voting. He's also considered a plus defender, and he played 158 games each season. Those are the reasons his rWAR is so high.

[weams]

I don't know what the arbitrators consider. They are certainly allowed to consider it, and I am 100% certain it would not be the sole basis for a determination, and probably not the primary one, either. Still, rWAR doesn't just pop out of the air. Donaldson had an .887 and .798 OPS the last two years, with 20+ HR and 90+ RBI each season, finishing 4th and 8th in the MVP voting. He's also considered a plus defender, and he played 158 games each season. Those are the reasons his rWAR is so high.

I see your point. I guess those numbers make a play 4+ million dollars right now. That seems like a lot too. I guess he may have won if he had asked for 4.9 million.