Arbitration -- What the hell are the Orioles doing?

[Beef Supreme]

Can't they avoid going to the hearing with de Aza? Projected at $5.9 MM by MLBTR, his agent is asking $5.65 MM, while the Orioles are offering $5MM. Seems to me that settling is smarter than fighting. I know it's not my money, but I'd bet a diplomatic offer of $5.4 MM, maybe with anothe $50K in incentives, would get the job done. Regardless of whether one likes the player or believes he is overpaid, is it really worth a couple hundred thousand dollars...to salt a wound? Make nice, reach a compromise and start the healing now.

[weams]

Can't they avoid going to the hearing with de Aza? Projected at $5.9 MM by MLBTR, his agent is asking $5.65 MM, while the Orioles are offering $5MM. Seems to me that settling is smarter than fighting. I know it's not my money, but I'd bet a diplomatic offer of $5.4 MM, maybe with anothe $50K in incentives, would get the job done. Regardless of whether one likes the player or believes he is overpaid, is it really worth a couple hundred thousand dollars...to salt a wound? Make nice, reach a compromise and start the healing now.

If De Aza would prefer to just sign for 5.05 million I am certain the Orioles would accomodate. There is no wound. 5 million is plenty for De Aza. That's plenty of healing.

[Can_of_corn]

I don't think the O's care if he feels slighted. Maybe it will help motivate him to have a good walk season?

[weams]

I don't think the O's care if he feels slighted. Maybe it will help motivate him to have a good walk season?

He has a reputation of being a bit lazy anyway. Right?

[weams]

I don't think the O's care if he feels slighted. Maybe it will help motivate him to have a good walk season?

Too bad it won't be good enough to offer him Qualifying. Heck, maybe we are going to trade him to Colorado.

[Can_of_corn]

Too bad it won't be good enough to offer him Qualifying. Heck, maybe we are going to trade him to Colorado.

Minnesota?

[BohKnowsBmore]

This close why settle? You can probably agree 100% on the facts and comps presented and just state that you think that is good for number x rather than y.

[Crazysilver03]

Can't they avoid going to the hearing with de Aza? Projected at $5.9 MM by MLBTR, his agent is asking $5.65 MM, while the Orioles are offering $5MM. Seems to me that settling is smarter than fighting. I know it's not my money, but I'd bet a diplomatic offer of $5.4 MM, maybe with anothe $50K in incentives, would get the job done. Regardless of whether one likes the player or believes he is overpaid, is it really worth a couple hundred thousand dollars...to salt a wound? Make nice, reach a compromise and start the healing now.

DD has already said they won't offer over $5M. DeAza is a free agent after the season so it's not the biggest issue if it hurts his feelings.

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[backwardsk]

This close why settle? You can probably agree 100% on the facts and comps presented and just state that you think that is good for number x rather than y.

I agree. With numbers this close, and only one more year in town, neither party has much to lose by going to arbitration.

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[Can_of_corn]

Colorado was a Jeremy Guthrie reference.

You don't send a hitter to Colorado to punish him.

[Just Regular]

Given the small gap, I sure hope Smouse isn't fired up here. I would think for the overall health of the situation, strenuous argument in this hearing would be highly counterproductive. Even if DeAza is a one year stopgap and the club projects Alvarez, Walker and Lough to outplay him in 2016, no need to poison the 2015 well.

[weams]

Given the small gap, I sure hope Smouse isn't fired up here. I would think for the overall health of the situation, strenuous argument in this hearing would be highly counterproductive. Even if DeAza is a one year stopgap and the club projects Alvarez, Walker and Lough to outplay him in 2016, no need to poison the 2015 well.

I believe Russell will be at his best.

[Beef Supreme]

Given the small gap, I sure hope Smouse isn't fired up here. I would think for the overall health of the situation, strenuous argument in this hearing would be highly counterproductive. Even if DeAza is a one year stopgap and the club projects Alvarez, Walker and Lough to outplay him in 2016, no need to poison the 2015 well.

Note that Andy MacPhail never went to a hearing during his tenures spanning three organizations. This fight seems unnecessary and potentially negatively impacts the relationship with the player the Orioles project, at this time, as thier starting left fielder. It might even create bad feelings for players other than de Aza. To me, it's not worth the potential of minimal savings.

And I think it's likely the Orioles will lose the case. If so, absolutely nothing good comes from this process for the Orioles.

[Can_of_corn]

Considering their track record I do not expect them to lose.

[Crazysilver03]

Note that Andy MacPhail never went to a hearing during his tenures spanning three organizations. This fight seems unnecessary and potentially negatively impacts the relationship with the player the Orioles project, at this time, as thier starting left fielder. It might even create bad feelings for players other than de Aza. To me, it's not worth the potential of minimal savings.

And I think it's likely the Orioles will lose the case. If so, absolutely nothing good comes from this process for the Orioles.

Why do you think it is likely they lose?

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