Tony-OH on Scott and Jeremy 105.7 at 5 PM today

[oriole]

"Even Andrew Miller wasn't Andrew Miller before he was Andrew Miller"

Best part of the segment!

[El Gordo]

Not so. Miguel Gonzalez at Norfolk in 2012. 11 games. 29 IP. 16 hits. 9 walks. 36 strikeouts 1.55 ERA.

ML level. 6 games in relief. 15 IP. 13 H. 6 walks. 13 K's.

I think Gonzalez would be quite good in relief.

I think Gausman would be better. Two pitch pitcher, high K's, could replace Miller at the back of the rotation.

Gonzo is a guy who will give you innings and QS, better suited for the rotation.

[Say O!]

Tony, you are OK with using a QO on Norris? Would like to understand rationale there with already a surplus of starters and Bundy needing to be on 2016 staff.

[wildcard]

Money means nothing. The contracts has been signed. Play who has the best chance of getting the O's a win.

Track record means a lot. Ubaldo does not normally pitch well in April. Whether he has a good year or a bad one he normally does not pitch well in the cold of April.

2014 - 6.59 ERA

2013 - 7.13 ERA

Career - 5.23 ERA

He belongs in the pen through April. Then in May through September start who ever has the best chance of getting the O's a win.

The O's are probably going to need Ubaldo in 2016-2017. So he probably does not get traded. At least not from the information we have now.

Gausman's innings have to be managed. He pitched 164.2 inning last year including in the playoffs. He can pitch 30 innings more this year. 194.2 innings is his target this year. Manage his innings accordingly. They should all be in the majors. Bumgarner pitched 50 innings in the playoffs. If Gausman is the O's best pitcher by the end of the year they are going to want him to pitch a lot in the playoffs.

So Gausman pitches April in the rotation. After that there will be some time in the rotation and some time in the pen to conserve innings. None of his innings should be in the minors. You don't put the guy with the best stuff that is projected to be the O's best starter in the minors.

Injuries to the staff will take care of who starts for some part of the season. So the O's should not trade a starter. Having 6 starters is definite advantage over other clubs.

The O's can't count of Bundy in the rotation in 2015. He will have an innings limit. By the time he reaches the majors he probably will not have have enough innings left to enter the rotation. He will probably be in the pen late in the year.

I think this is the best way to use the 6 starters.

[Can_of_corn]

Gausman doesn't need to have his innings managed. The only Oriole starter who has been hitting the 200 inning mark is Tillman. Best case scenario Gausman pitches so well you have to skip him once or they pull him after five innings a couple times.

[weams]

Money means nothing. The contracts has been signed.

I love your world.

[Frobby]

I love your world.

It's at least partially true. Jimenez got bumped to the bullpen last year despite his salary -- eventually. In 2013, Ryan Flaherty got more starts than $1.7 mm player Alexi Casilla (but not more than $10 mm Brian Roberts once he was able to play).

We can all spend endless time speculating about how Buck will handle things. Let's see how spring training goes, especially whether everyone emerges healthy. Then worry about it.

[weams]

It's at least partially true. Jimenez got bumped to the bullpen last year despite his salary -- eventually. In 2013, Ryan Flaherty got more starts than $1.7 mm player Alexi Casilla (but not more than $10 mm Brian Roberts once he was able to play).

We can all spend endless time speculating about how Buck will handle things. Let's see how spring training goes, especially whether everyone emerges healthy. Then worry about it.

I know. Sometimes, they can overcome the investment. But only after a while, and after it comes down to crunch time. Heck, Jake Arrieta got traded because he wasn't cutting it. Over and over and over again.

[OriolesMagic83]

Ubaldo steps in a hole next to his car, goes to the DL for a month, problem solved. :vader:

Gausman is our best hope of an ace on our staff. The type of ace that will help us advance in the playoffs. I hope he gets a fair chance at winning a spot in the starting rotation. I would like to see Ubaldo in the bullpen as the long man until he is consistently throwing strikes (September?)

It would be nice if Bundy starts dominating in the minors. The O's could get quite a haul for Chen or Norris before the trade deadline.

[wildcard]

Gausman doesn't need to have his innings managed. The only Oriole starter who has been hitting the 200 inning mark is Tillman. Best case scenario Gausman pitches so well you have to skip him once or they pull him after five innings a couple times.

That would be managing his innings.

[wildcard]

I know. Sometimes, they can overcome the investment. But only after a while, and after it comes down to crunch time. Heck, Jake Arrieta got traded because he wasn't cutting it. Over and over and over again.

Arrieta trade had nothing to do with money. It had everything to do with him not developing as a pitcher.

[srock]

At the end of the day, the Orioles won the division big last year (12 games.) The pitching was strong, and they are young. The guys (at-large) are in their prime. They are set up to have a long run this season.

Could not agree more!

This was an off season of restraint and resource conservation. Thus, the Orioles are positioned to add talent as needed throughout the season.

Add in the MiL replenishing bounty of draft picks they could have the next few years due to free agents leaving, and there are plenty of tradable commodities and plenty of financial flexibility to do what may have to be done in season.

Why sign Andrew Miller for 4 years $36 million when you can trade for Miller 2.0 (if needed) for a few million, no long term commitment, and a few replaceable prospects?

I for one am so happy the Orioles are in a position to be restrained as opposed to the dark years of hopeless confederate money.

[Can_of_corn]

That would be managing his innings.

That would be, but it probably won't be necessary to even do that much.

In 2014 the O's had one pitcher hit 195 innings, in 2013 they had one pitcher hit 195 innings, in 2012 they had zero pitchers hit 195 innings, in 2011 they had one pitcher hit 195 innings.

So in four full seasons under Buck you have three seasons of 195 innings. Now what are the chances the O's will have to manage Gausman's innings?

You certainly don't worry about it in April.

[wildcard]

That would be, but it probably won't be necessary to even do that much.

In 2014 the O's had one pitcher hit 195 innings, in 2013 they had one pitcher hit 195 innings, in 2012 they had zero pitchers hit 195 innings, in 2011 they had one pitcher hit 195 innings.

So in four full seasons under Buck you have three seasons of 195 innings. Now what are the chances the O's will have to manage Gausman's innings?

You certainly don't worry about it in April.

Chen had 201 innings last year if post season innings are included. They pretty much have to be if we are talking innings limits.

[Can_of_corn]

Chen had 201 innings last year if post season innings are included. They pretty much have to be if we are talking innings limits.

It is really putting the cart before the horse to manage a kid with a "195 inning cap" in April to make sure he has innings left for October.

Of course the 30 inning "Verducci effect" has been pretty thoroughly debunked.