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When this happened, I immediately disliked Jimenez. But I've been trying not to judge some of these guys by there worst moments. There are plenty of guys in the public eye that have made some poor decisions...including D. Young and Manny.

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And what is his excuse for being bad in 2011 and 2012?

I haven't had high expectations for Jimenez because I've always felt that he's been a poor pitcher longer in his career than he's been a really good pitcher. He was fortunate that he became a free agent after a good couple of months at the end of the 2nd half of 2013. I recall him having some good games against some really bad teams though. Now that we have him though, I'm hoping that we can get a consistent, slightly better-than-average pitcher with some flashes of brilliance.

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Or the loss of velocity that was evident until after his injury through his way of getting outs out of whack. Either.

He gave up less hits than IP. His K rate was good. His lack of command was his achilles heel. As it is every year. If his offseason workout regiment was to blame for 2014, then maybe he needs to focus more during the offseason. Because whatever he does still hasn't solved his bouts of wildness.

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He gave up less hits than IP. His K rate was good. His lack of command was his achilles heel. As it is every year. If his offseason workout regiment was to blame for 2014, then maybe he needs to focus more during the offseason. Because whatever he does still hasn't solved his bouts of wildness.

He was a free agent last year. He was not training until he signed his deal. I suspect there was little focus.

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I remember reading about that. He was immature in those day and acted like an idiot. How he dealt with last year's issues, being demoted to the bullpen and not publically complaining, accepting that he needed help with his mechanics -- this showed maturity on his part. I read Orioles blogs, Facebook entries, and similar sites. He is still being constantly ridiculed by various Os fans on these sites. I seriously doubt that he reads all of these blogs, though I know that he's on Facebook and Twitter. But I'm sure that he's aware of what some fans think of him; they have sometimes let him know at the ballpark during games when he was struggling. Instead of complaining about fans, he has worked on his pitching -- he turned boos into wild cheers when he righted himself during the East Division clincher. Then he came to Fanfest, engaged himself with the fans, spoke about how he was going to improve himself.

As far as consistency, there is some hope that this will improve. He has shown a solid work ethic. And above all, he has solid coaching and Buck as his manager. He should have a good year and that will be great for the team.

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I remember reading about that. He was immature in those day and acted like an idiot. How he dealt with last year's issues, being demoted to the bullpen and not publically complaining, accepting that he needed help with his mechanics -- this showed maturity on his part. I read Orioles blogs, Facebook entries, and similar sites. He is still being constantly ridiculed by various Os fans on these sites. I seriously doubt that he reads all of these blogs, though I know that he's on Facebook and Twitter. But I'm sure that he's aware of what some fans think of him; they have sometimes let him know at the ballpark during games when he was struggling. Instead of complaining about fans, he has worked on his pitching -- he turned boos into wild cheers when he righted himself during the East Division clincher. Then he came to Fanfest, engaged himself with the fans, spoke about how he was going to improve himself.

As far as consistency, there is some hope that this will improve. He has shown a solid work ethic. And above all, he has solid coaching and Buck as his manager. He should have a good year and that will be great for the team.

What is his twitter?

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He wasn't bad in 2011. 3.67 FIP, 22% K rate, 2.30 SO/BB, with 2/3's of his starts that year coming in Colorado is not bad at all. He didn't have a great 2011, but I wouldn't call it bad.

That's ok. He's an Oriole. So folks would day that is reason enough to bash him. There were many pitchers worse than Ubaldo last year. And he did not weigh in Thursday at 307 lbs. He strikes out a bunch of guys, does not give up homers, and has a fastball that has crazy movement.

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He was a free agent last year. He was not training until he signed his deal. I suspect there was little focus.

My point is, he had the same issues as every year. I like Ubaldo and I hope he does good. I don't see though how one offseason is to blame for something that has been an issue his whole career. Hope he wins 20 this year.

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My point is, he had the same issues as every year. I like Ubaldo and I hope he does good. I don't see though how one offseason is to blame for something that has been an issue his whole career. Hope he wins 20 this year.

I think last year, he did revert because of lack of training. We bought him because he had made a great leap. And then his lack of workout caused his mechanics to regress and he no longer had the heat to rely on. I watched him at 87 last spring. I would still rather have him than Ervin.

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