What statistical outcome do you see from full seasons of Machado and Weiters?

[NAR-lOve]

And is it enough to make up for the loss of Cruz and Markakis' offense?

[scOtt]

I think those two make up for Cruz. 40-ish HRs, 80-ish added RBIs. Of course that's two players for one...

I see Snider easily covering Nick's stats. Less OBP, more power. A wash in the field.

[weams]

And is it enough to make up for the loss of Cruz and Markakis' offense?

Cruz and markakis last season? Or this?

[CA-ORIOLE]

Low 800 OPS's and near full season of play for both would work for me. For whatever reason I feel Machado has the ability to break out in the 850 OPS level or higher.

[weams]

Low 800 OPS's and near full season of play for both would work for me. For whatever reason I feel Machado has the ability to break out in the 850 OPS level or higher.

If Matt Wieters does not have a good year, he will cost himself 50 million dollars. I figure Manny is a superstar when healthy. Six years from his prime. I assume that Travis Snider is better than Nick Markakis this season. In every way.

[Beef Supreme]

I'm wondering whether the TJ saps Wieters power, at least for this season. I hate to put it out there but I am concerned that he may only hit 10-12 HRs. Maybe someone has some insight on how TJ affects batters.

[weams]

I'm wondering whether the TJ saps Wieters power, at least for this season. I hate to put it out there but I am concerned that he may only hit 10-12 HRs. Maybe someone has some insight on how TJ affects batters.

http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/146495-Fangraphs-Tommy-John-Surgery-and-Hitters?p=3735514#post3735514

Not me, but someone did the work.

[weams]

I'm wondering whether the TJ saps Wieters power, at least for this season. I hate to put it out there but I am concerned that he may only hit 10-12 HRs. Maybe someone has some insight on how TJ affects batters.

It probably has a similar result to giving up PEDs for lent. Cruz was ok.

[Frobby]

I think Manny's going to come into his own and have an .850 OPS, MVP contending season. My default expectation for Wieters is a career average, .740ish season, though I'm hoping for more. I'd be surprised if our overall offense doesn't slip a little. People keep talking about the guys who are coming back from injury, but injuries occur every year and 2015 won't be an exception.

[BohKnowsBmore]

I think those two make up for Cruz. 40-ish HRs, 80-ish added RBIs. Of course that's two players for one...

I see Snider easily covering Nick's stats. Less OBP, more power. A wash in the field.

I'm a little more bullish on the homers. I think full seasons get us about 50 homers between the two. Let's call it 25 and 25 for now.

I've said it before but manny's power looked a lot better than I thought it would in the back half of the season before we lost him. Some balls really started carrying for him.

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[MarylandAaron]

Machado: .280/.325/.455/.780, 24 HR, 90 RBI

Wieters: .240/.300/.410/.710, 20 HR, 70 RBI

Overall: .260/.313/.432/.745, 44 HR, 160 RBI

[Enjoy Terror]

Machado: .280/.325/.455/.780, 24 HR, 90 RBI

Wieters: .240/.300/.410/.710, 20 HR, 70 RBI

Overall: .260/.313/.432/.745, 44 HR, 160 RBI

I'm on board with Machado's line, but I think you have Wieters too low in the OBP category. I think he's capable of .315-.320.

[BohKnowsBmore]

Machado: .280/.325/.455/.780, 24 HR, 90 RBI

Wieters: .240/.300/.410/.710, 20 HR, 70 RBI

Overall: .260/.313/.432/.745, 44 HR, 160 RBI

I think those numbers look a little low on Wieters...

His career line is .257/.320/.423/.743. He's only had one season (2013) with an OBP lower than .319. Further, his last three full seasons he has eclipsed those home run numbers? Are you predicting further struggles by Wieters (using 2013 as "struggle")?

[BohKnowsBmore]

I'm on board with Machado's line, but I think you have Wieters too low in the OBP category. I think he's capable of .315-.320.

I'd say he's more than capable of .315 - .320 since his career number is .320.

[Enjoy Terror]

I'd say he's more than capable of .315 - .320 since his career number is .320.

I only eyeballed it. Glad to know that I have enough orange in my blood to predict career OBPs on the fly.