If, IF, if Ubaldo continues to dominate?

[weams]

Spring Training:

- In 2012 we lost to a Florida Community College team. Our team was awful all year.

- In 2014 we lost a 5 inning scrimmage to the Frederick Keys. Our team was awful all year.

- Last season Ubaldo's first outing was great, I believe. He won the Cy young.

(All regular stats pulled from memory of overreaction threads)

All good points.

[terps19]

Ubaldo had a great first ST start last year and look how that turned out. Its the first ST game you cant put much stock into any of it.

[weams]

I would look to trade one bad contract for another so we can upgrade our offense. If he had one year left, I would be inclined to cut him but three years is too much to swallow.

What if Ubaldo was pitching to a spot instead of to a game condition?

[Bahama O's Fan]

I just posed an "if" question. I know that the game means nothing, but just "if" he sucks ALL spring training, cannot throw strikes and the stuff he does throw well they crush, what would you do?

[Crazysilver03]

I would look to trade one bad contract for another so we can upgrade our offense. If he had one year left, I would be inclined to cut him but three years is too much to swallow.

Generally a bad contract won't upgrade the offense. Who would you recommend?

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[Aristotelian]

I just posed an "if" question. I know that the game means nothing' date=' but just "if" he sucks ALL spring training, cannot throw strikes and the stuff he does throw well they crush, what would you do?[/quote']

Especially because we have six starters and a logjam in the bullpen, I believe it is a legitimate question. If he was a lock for the rotation I would say ignore the spring, but if we are choosing between him and Miguel it's a tough call if he continues to look horrible.

[WEAVERMAN]

I know' date=' I know, it was only the first spring training game, but... if he doesn't improve with his control all spring, what do you do with him? Fake injury? Bullpen? Roll with him? Put him on waivers?[/quote']

Send him to the BP. The Orioles couldn't his afford inconsistency in 2014 and they can't afford it in 2015.

[Redskins Rick]

Send him to the BP. The Orioles couldn't his afford inconsistency in 2014 and they can't afford it in 2015.

Maybe it's a bit early to make knee jerk decisions.

This is what they play spring training games.

[Tx Oriole]

So if he looks wild and out of control ALL of spring training' date=' you want to give him TEN games?[/quote']

I do. You can't go by spring training. IMO

[MurphDogg]

I do. You can't go by spring training. IMO

I agree. Last year Miguel Gonzalez led the Orioles in spring training innings with 20 and a third innings. That simply isn't enough innings to judge a player.

[atomic]

If he continues to pitch poorly he will be given the Kevin Gregg treatment. Only pitch out of the pen in blow out games. The team will move guys up and down to keep the pen fresh. also we might have a 3 man bench.

[Bahama O's Fan]

If he continues to pitch poorly he will be given the Kevin Gregg treatment. Only pitch out of the pen in blow out games. The team will move guys up and down to keep the pen fresh. also we might have a 3 man bench.

I think the only problem with that is one of the Rule V guys (probably Garcia) is gonna have mop up duty. What are the rules for waivers/release for Ubaldo? Can he be put on waivers and anyone claiming him must take his salary? What if he clears waivers? Are we then on the hook for his contract minus whatever anyone signs him for?

[Crazysilver03]

I think the only problem with that is one of the Rule V guys (probably Garcia) is gonna have mop up duty. What are the rules for waivers/release for Ubaldo? Can he be put on waivers and anyone claiming him must take his salary? What if he clears waivers? Are we then on the hook for his contract minus whatever anyone signs him for?

If someone claims him, they are responsible for his salary. Which won't happen. So he would clear waivers and the Orioles would have to eat the entire contract minus what he might sign for elsewhere.

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[Bahama O's Fan]

If someone claims him, they are responsible for his salary. Which won't happen. So he would clear waivers and the Orioles would have to eat the entire contract minus what he might sign for elsewhere.

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If he clears waivers, can we sign him to a minor league deal? I don't think he will do it, but just curious.

[Crazysilver03]

If he clears waivers' date=' can we sign him to a minor league deal? I don't think he will do it, but just curious.[/quote']

Yes. Technically if a player has never cleared waivers before they have to take the assignment. But not sure how that works with free agent contracts.

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