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Fangraphs: A Third of Good Players Were Not Good Prospects


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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/how-many-good-players-were-good-prospects/

The work here is an extension of Jeff Sullivan's recent attempt to answer a question notable both for its simplicity and importance. The question: how many good players were good prospects?

Sullivan found that about a third of good players weren't good prospects - or, at least, about a third of them never appeared on Baseball America's annual top-100 prospect list. They weren't all non-prospects, of course, but a sufficient enough percentage of top-100 prospects fail such that, for a rookie-eligible player to expressly not appear among that group immediately renders his chances of succeeding in the majors pretty low.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/demography-of-the-good-player-part-ii-by-draft-round/

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Good stuff. The one thing I would caution is that some will take this as "prospect status doesn't matter." It's important to remember that the number of young players/prospect/non-prospects NOT on the top-100 list >>>>>>>> those on said list. Thus, 2/3 of good players having appeared on the top-100 list, speaks to there being a pretty good correlation.

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Good stuff. The one thing I would caution is that some will take this as "prospect status doesn't matter." It's important to remember that the number of young players/prospect/non-prospects NOT on the top-100 list >>>>>>>> those on said list. Thus, 2/3 of good players having appeared on the top-100 list, speaks to there being a pretty good correlation.

Absolutely. Most good players are good prospects.

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Top 100 is a very good prospect. And most of those were top 50 (52% top 50, 15% 51-100, 33% unranked).

So, were you to turn the % likelihood of turning into a "good player" into a bar graph, you would have a huge bar for 1 - 50, a low-to-mid bar for 51-100 and a tiny bar for non-ranked.

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So, were you to turn the % likelihood of turning into a "good player" into a bar graph, you would have a huge bar for 1 - 50, a low-to-mid bar for 51-100 and a tiny bar for non-ranked.

Tiny for 51-100. Then large again for unranked. Of course the percentage is miniscule because unranked is infinite.

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