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fearthenoodle Major Leaguer

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I am just trying to figure out why you think accumulated WAR is the biggest factor for Caberera but isn't for Lough.

The fact that Cabrera has shown at some point in his career to be a *good* player (THAT is why I mentioned WAR), and not that long ago, is something neither Schoop or Flaherty has ever done as a ML. You can twist what I said in whatever way you desire obviously. I completely understand the pro-Schoop crowd. He was rushed into the job, and he certainly has tools that could and hopefully will translate into a very good everday 2B. I do not understand the slavish loyalty to Flaherty, who has never shown any promise as a hitter, has no speed, and plays a decent 2B. His biggest asset is that he won't embarrass himself at other positions if they need him to move around.

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The fact that Cabrera has shown at some point in his career to be a *good* player (THAT is why I mentioned WAR), and not that long ago, is something neither Schoop or Flaherty has ever done as a ML. You can twist what I said in whatever way you desire obviously. I completely understand the pro-Schoop crowd. He was rushed into the job, and he certainly has tools that could and hopefully will translate into a very good everday 2B. I do not understand the slavish loyalty to Flaherty, who has never shown any promise as a hitter, has no speed, and plays a decent 2B. His biggest asset is that he won't embarrass himself at other positions if they need him to move around.

I think you are overvaluing Cabrera based on one decent year out of 5.

Buck values Flaherty, and if he didnt show you that in Sept and the Playoffs, not sure what else I can say.

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I just don't think I'm following your logic. That has nothing to do with anything.

I was just using guys, you mentioned in your own post.

I get it, you are not a Flaherty fan, but I think right now you are putting way too much into Cabrera.

Sorry, but my own opinion.

Getting this thread back on topic.

Navarro might really be something of a surprise, I like what another poster wrote and how he might be another Alomar.

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I don't see choosing Flaherty in a situation where he had no other options (and where Cabrera certainly wasn't an option) has any bearing.

I liked the Navarro signing. But he has zero chance of making the OD roster. And that's ok. He has 3 options and it's worth seeing if he develops into something legit.

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I was just using guys, you mentioned in your own post.

I get it, you are not a Flaherty fan, but I think right now you are putting way too much into Cabrera.

Sorry, but my own opinion.

Getting this thread back on topic.

Navarro might really be something of a surprise, I like what another poster wrote and how he might be another Alomar.

What?

Gimmie a link, somehow I missed this.

Which Alomar are they referring to?

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What, the 6 years at SS where he averaged a -6 RS at SS? Or -7.3 UZR/150?

You honestly think Flaherty would be graded as a better defender at SS than Cabrera? Cabrera was a regualar for several years at that postion, Flaherty is never going to play SS full time anywhere . I bet he his better at 3rd but if Manny is healthy that isn't an issue. Cabrera has shown in the past an ability to get on base and can steal a bag. He gives the team a different dimension than Flaherty does. Ryan is a .220 hitter with some home run pop. He isn't good enough to pinch hit for anybody.

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There wasn't exactly much choice. I don't get that argument. Paredes and Johnson were butchers.

When Manny got hurt and Davis was suspended that was when Flaherty got more playing time. Early in the year Manny was out and Hardy had some issues. Like you said what options did Buck have? I am not arguing that Cabrera would be better at 3rd but if Manny is playing who cares? If Buck wants to sit him for a game he could play Davis there.

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