Selection Sunday

[murph]

1. I am just tickled that the discussion is over whether MD should have been 3 seed over a 4 seed, rather than whether to pay attention to the NIT if they even make it.

2. I agree something don't smell right with us losing out on the 3 seed.

3. If we make it to the sweet 16 and go no further, I will be pleased.

4. If they are playing really well, make it to the sweet 16 then get walked over by Kentucky, I will be highly ticked, but still pleased....if that makes any sense.

5. My daughter has a softball game at the same time as MD plays on Friday. Figures. Not sure whether to DVR or not, it is so hard to avoid updates, especially at a sporting event where everyone will be checking their phones and probably shouting out the score.

[SouthRider]

i wonder if Maryland is getting hosed because they haven't made the tournament in a few years. Kind of reminds me of when the Terps first got back into the tourney under Gary and they had to face the Fab Five Michigan squad in the sweet sixteen.

[ArtVanDelay]

That feature doesn't work for this forum like it does for the main Orioles forum.

Ah, alright. Thanks.

[ArtVanDelay]

ESPN says Maryland is the most OVERSEEDED team and the worst 4 seed. Says they should have been a 7 seed.

:rofl:

To be fair, they were basing that off BPI, and as another poster said, BPI takes margin of victory into account.

[Can_of_corn]

I would have rather them be a 6 or 7 seed than a 4 seed. Clearly the committee used metrics other than record, conference record, record vs top 50, bad losses, and good road wins as the baselines in their decisions. Otherwise, there is no justification for the seed at all. I'm over it, but using margin of victory as a criteria is stupidity. I can provide a lot of variables thst influence margin of victory that have zero to do with the relative capability of a team. Whatever...

From strictly an academic standpoint I question the idea of teaching kids that piling on a defeated opponent is the way to get ahead.

[LayzieDES]

ESPN says Maryland is the most OVERSEEDED team and the worst 4 seed. Says they should have been a 7 seed.

:rofl:

To be fair, they were basing that off BPI, and as another poster said, BPI takes margin of victory into account.

Cue jake Taylor then.

[waroriole]

I keep reading this as Lazy Sunday because of OP's name. That song is in my head.

[ArtVanDelay]

I would have rather them be a 6 or 7 seed than a 4 seed. Clearly the committee used metrics other than record, conference record, record vs top 50, bad losses, and good road wins as the baselines in their decisions. Otherwise, there is no justification for the seed at all. I'm over it, but using margin of victory as a criteria is stupidity. I can provide a lot of variables thst influence margin of victory that have zero to do with the relative capability of a team. Whatever...

And yet GTown got a 4 seed because of the "eye test" and UCLA made the tournament because "they are gaining steam" (I'm not kidding, the chairman of the selection committee actually said that to justify UCLA being in the tourney).

Every committee member needs to resign immediately. They clearly aren't qualified.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/03/15/ucla-made-the-ncaa-tournament-and-no-one-is-happy-about-it/

“One of the tougher decisions the committee had to make,” Scott Barnes, chairman of the selection committee, told CBS after the brackets were revealed. “They were gaining steam, they had a good strength of schedule. … I think the eye test was a plus in putting them into the field.”

What is the eye test????? Close losses? Maryland gets penalized for close wins but Georgetown and UCLA get credit for close losses?

[hoosiers]

I don't think Maryland was hosed. The difference between a 3 and 4 seed is very small to get so excited. It's a down year for the Big 10 and that shows up in the worst seedings for the conference in a long time. I don't think Maryland beating Indiana (a 10 seed whose only recent win is Northwestern) in the last minute thanks to a lane violation and losing in the conference semis to MichState is indicative of a 3 seed. I didn't see a lot of college basketball except for IU, but we did play GTown and lost in OT on a neutral court versus losing two similarly close games to Maryland at College Park and a neutral site while waxing Maryland at Assembly Hall. I don't see an appreciable difference between GTown and Maryland from this one example.

Hopefully, the B1G carries the first two days and gets a bunch of wins before exiting in disappointing fashion over the weekend. Would be nice to get 3 teams into the Sweet 16, but that seems very unlikely.

IU was fodder for Kentucky as an 8 seed a few years ago. This after IU beat KY during the regular season which made the rematch before the Sweet 16 somewhat unusual. IU played KY as tough as anyone in the tourney (had the lead at the half IIRC) and might have won if not for KY making a better free throw % than any other game in the tourney. IU could have done some major damage to other higher seeds if not for drawing KY. That's how it goes. Better to play a top seed and see how it shakes out than to lose to a borderline top 25 team.

[ArtVanDelay]

I don't think Maryland was hosed. The difference between a 3 and 4 seed is very small to get so excited. It's a down year for the Big 10 and that shows up in the worst seedings for the conference in a long time. I don't think Maryland beating Indiana (a 10 seed whose only recent win is Northwestern) in the last minute thanks to a lane violation and losing in the conference semis to MichState is indicative of a 3 seed. I didn't see a lot of college basketball except for IU, but we did play GTown and lost in OT on a neutral court versus losing two similarly close games to Maryland at College Park and a neutral site while waxing Maryland at Assembly Hall. I don't see an appreciable difference between GTown and Maryland from this one example.

Hopefully, the B1G carries the first two days and gets a bunch of wins before exiting in disappointing fashion over the weekend. Would be nice to get 3 teams into the Sweet 16, but that seems very unlikely.

IU was fodder for Kentucky as an 8 seed a few years ago. This after IU beat KY during the regular season which made the rematch before the Sweet 16 somewhat unusual. IU played KY as tough as anyone in the tourney (had the lead at the half IIRC) and might have won if not for KY making a better free throw % than any other game in the tourney. IU could have done some major damage to other higher seeds if not for drawing KY. That's how it goes. Better to play a top seed and see how it shakes out than to lose to a borderline top 25 team.

Thanks to a lane violation? LOL

You're the first person I've seen that thinks that Maryland didn't get hosed. It's not just Maryland fans. National media members have been saying the same thing. MD was in the hunt for a 2 seed until the final weekend and then all of the sudden they're a 4 and in Kentucky's bracket. But the Indiana fan thinks MD didn't get hosed. Big surprise.

I guess you're still mad about 2002.

[EagleOriole]

Thanks to a lane violation? LOL

You're the first person I've seen that thinks that Maryland didn't get hosed. It's not just Maryland fans. National media members have been saying the same thing. MD was in the hunt for a 2 seed until the final weekend and then all of the sudden they're a 4 and in Kentucky's bracket. But the Indiana fan thinks MD didn't get hosed. Big surprise.

I guess you're still mad about 2002.

You really have no sense of this forum at all if you are questioning Hoosiers intentions. He is a passionate college basketball fan who likes Maryland. He can just look at things without being overly emotional.

I disagree with being seeded opposite Kentucky, but agree on the #3 vs. #4 seeding. Very slight difference. I would have liked to have been seeded opposite Villanova, who I think is ripe for an upset.

[Munson]

I don't think Maryland was hosed. The difference between a 3 and 4 seed is very small to get so excited. It's a down year for the Big 10 and that shows up in the worst seedings for the conference in a long time. I don't think Maryland beating Indiana (a 10 seed whose only recent win is Northwestern) in the last minute thanks to a lane violation and losing in the conference semis to MichState is indicative of a 3 seed.

So you're basing MD's seed on two games?

[Finisher]

It's less about the 4 seed and more about being stuck in Kentucky's bracket. The selection committee had to consciously decide who was getting the 4 in Kentucky's bracket and it's like they went out of their way to screw Maryland. You want to make Georgetown a 4? Fine, but they get Kentucky. Hell, give me a 5 seed over this death sentence. The whole point of the tourney is having hope and thinking your team can go on a deep run and that was pretty much stolen away. It's not like Maryland is one of these dirty programs that reloads every year and is in position to make an annual tourney run.

[hoosiers]

So you're basing MD's seed on two games?

I must say I re-read my post and am trying to understand your conclusion. My posts includes mentions of IU playing Maryland (3X), GTown, Northwestern plus MSU playing Maryland. It must be a thing of mathematical beauty to conclude I am referencing two games! Good lord.

[ArtVanDelay]

You really have no sense of this forum at all if you are questioning Hoosiers intentions. He is a passionate college basketball fan who likes Maryland. He can just look at things without being overly emotional.

I disagree with being seeded opposite Kentucky, but agree on the #3 vs. #4 seeding. Very slight difference. I would have liked to have been seeded opposite Villanova, who I think is ripe for an upset.

I don't think taking multiple subtle jabs at Maryland equates to "liking Maryland" and taking emotions out of it. What does liking Maryland have anything to do with it anyways? I have nothing against unbiased opinions. To say that Maryland doesn't deserve a 3 seed because of 3 games is beyond ignorant.