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Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

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You can claim that Gausman is on the same level as the others but Buck doesn't see it that way. That's becoming pretty clear.

And once again folks act like Buck makes all the shots.

Gausman might start in the minors or the pen, but if he does it will be because Dan put him there.

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And once again folks act like Buck makes all the shots.

Gausman might start in the minors or the pen, but if he does it will be because Dan put him there.

The treatment of Gausman is odd to say the least. Anyone remember when he was pulled up after having the flu to start a game. I mean I just don't think you treat one of your best prospects like that but who am I to question.

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Buck and Dan will be making their decision based on who they think can help the team win as many games as possible in 2015.

If they have 5 starters that are pitching well and one who is not that makes the decision easy for them. Its not about tenure. Its about winning.

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Buck and Dan will be making their decision based on who they think can help the team win as many games as possible in 2015.

If they have 5 starters that are pitching well and one who is not that makes the decision easy for them. Its not about tenure. Its about winning.

It's not about tenure it's about track record versus ST, and it's also about money. Otherwise they would have DFA'd Ubaldo.
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Makes no sense. Why would you want to re-sign here when your team treats you this way? Why they're not high on him is beyond me.

Well good thing he is under team control for 4-5 more years. If you want to remain blind that is up to you, but they clearly are not "down" on him.

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And he may be right. But if Norris does not prove to be healthy he is on the DL. If he doesn't show better control, he is in the pen. It's up to Norris to show what he can do at this point in the spring.

I think he's losing his grip on a spot period.

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It's not about tenure it's about track record versus ST, and it's also about money. Otherwise they would have DFA'd Ubaldo.

Even if they were willing to DFA Ubaldo there is no reason to do it before the final cuts.

Or would you have DFA'd him for the spot on the 40?

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Buck might not be able to stop Dan from sending Gausman to the minors but if you think that Dan can tell Buck how to use his roster I have a bridge to sell you

Agreed. Look at all those save opportunities KRod got in 2013.

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Gee thanks. He isn't in comparison to the other 5. He hasn't nearly as many IP and he costs the least. If any one is the odd man out it's him.

No matter what, eh? Just cost and IP are the only determining factors? Not performance? Well, let's just pencil in Norris right now then and if craps the bed in the first five or six games, who cares? At least he's got Gausman beat when it comes to IP and how much money he makes.

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No matter what, eh? Just cost and IP are the only determining factors? Not performance? Well, let's just pencil in Norris right now then and if craps the bed in the first five or six games, who cares? At least he's got Gausman beat when it comes to IP and how much money he makes.
Gausman's performance/track record isn't better than any of the other 5. And before you bring up FIP, just check the thread were Buck says in effect we are a pitch to contact defense kind of team.
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Gausman's performance/track record isn't better than any of the other 5. And before you bring up FIP, just check the thread were Buck says in effect we are a pitch to contact defense kind of team.

Even discounting FIP he is the youngest and has the highest ceiling. That alone indicates that going forward he has the greatest likelihood of improving.

If you stop and think about it, the fact that he held his own with the rest of the rotation last year is a pretty strong indication that he will be one of the stronger pitchers in the rotation this season.

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Gausman's performance/track record isn't better than any of the other 5. And before you bring up FIP, just check the thread were Buck says in effect we are a pitch to contact defense kind of team.

Who said anything about track record? Again, you're perfectly fine with sending Norris out there no matter how many bad performances he has leading up to OD just because he has a track record of being a slightly better than average ML pitcher. That's a low bar. I want the guys in my rotation to perform, as in present tense. You don't win the job based on tenure.

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