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Can Paredes play 2B adequately?

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Before 2012, Miguel Gonzalez was more a reliever than a starter in the minors who had a 3.99 ERA in AA and had barely pitched in AA. He was 28 years old. If someone had said he'd have a 118 ERA+ and be a viable major league starter, that would have sounded very unusual too. It's baseball. Sometimes unusual happens.

Everyone thinks their guy is the one in 100.

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I get it. You don't want to look beyond his minor league OPS. I'm a bit more intrigued by what I'm seeing along witn a good hit tool, a high minor league batting average and seemingly new found power potential, though admittedly he is a longshot I'd lIke to see it play out for awhile.

I would like to hear more about this seemingly new found power potential. He hit two homers in spring training and one so far this season. Is that really a trend? My problem is the people who pointed to his success last year in 55 plate appearances at the MLB level were ignoring that he actually had his worst season at AAA last year of his three seasons at that level. He seems to be hot right now, but counting on it to last seems foolish.

People often throw the term AAAA player around, but Paredes hasn't even proven to be a dominant AAA player at this point in his career.

I am skeptical, but I hope I am wrong.

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We've talked about it in this thread. Look at his percentage of extra base hits compared to total hits in his minor league career. Then compare that to his tour with the O's last season, this year's ST, and his season.

Just make sure to ignore his minor league stats from last season.

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We've talked about it in this thread. Look at his percentage of extra base hits compared to total hits in his minor league career. Then compare that to his tour with the O's last season, this year's ST, and his season.

Then, for heaven's sake just watch the guy hit. In ST, he hit an opposite field homer lefthanded. I believe he did the same thing last season and then again last night. The bat speed on his double the night before that he pulled was impressive. That was a laser. He hit an absolute bomb to his pull side (LH) in ST as well. I'm not sure what he changed. Maybe he lifted more. Maybe he changed his swing. Don't know. I don't think it's the same guy even from last year.

Thanks for answering that. I'm not sure if Paredes has bulked up or is on steroids, but there is pretty obvious power there that doesn't seem to be evident in his Mil numbers. Maybe it's just an adjustment having him put more balls in the air and hit with more backspin than topspin, and the power was always there.

In any event, I agree he's probably still a lottery ticket, but if the cost is losing Lough, I'm content to ride it out.

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Just make sure to ignore his minor league stats from last season.

No one is ignoring them, but we're all not slaves to them either. There just doesn't seem to be a correlation between them and what we're seeing. Keep in mind Dan and his scouts look for nuggets and they were going to keep him out of Spring Training. We're just saying there might be something there and if every exec just fixated on his Minor League OPS you wouldn't find something undervalued and undeveloped.

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Let it play out for a while, I suppose it can't hurt. But my primary concern is that this is the same guy who had a 17:109 BB:K ratio in AAA last year at 25.

He's not a disciplined hitter but his Mil track record does show he has a good hit tool and can hit for average. Combine that tool with power and you potentially have a good hitter.

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No one is ignoring them, but we're all not slaves to them either. There just doesn't seem to be a correlation between them and what we're seeing. Keep in mind Dan and his scouts look for nuggets and they were going to keep him out of Spring Training. We're just saying there might be something there and if every exec just fixated on his Minor League OPS you wouldn't find something undervalued and undeveloped.

I don't think it is reasonable to consider his 55 Orioles plate appearances from last season while ignoring his 420 minor league plate appearances. Which you would have to do in order to think that Paredes is a changed player, rather than just potentially having a 30 game hot streak.

I would be excited if he somehow is a completely new player this year than he ever was before, but I don't think it is fair to include his limited Orioles experience from last year.

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