PressBoxOnline: Tony Pente Scouting Report

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I think that is the first I have heard anyone said that Bundy projects to not become a #1 pitcher. Tony projecting him as middle of the rotation. Tony also says that Harvey has passed Bundy as the O's #1 prospect.

Breaking news from Tony.

[Tony-OH]

I think that is the first I have heard anyone said that Bundy projects to not become a #1 pitcher. Tony projecting him as middle of the rotation. Tony also says that Harvey has passed Bundy as the O's #1 prospect.

Breaking news from Tony.

Thanks, but just to be clear, I said some scouts that I talked to now think he's going to be more of a mid-rotation starter now. I haven't made up my mind until I see him throughout this year.

[Redskins Rick]

Thanks, but just to be cleared, I said some scouts that I talked to now think he's going to be more of a mid-rotation starter now. I haven't made up my mind until I see him throughout this year.

How often do number #1 SP, turn out to be real #1?

You see guys drafted all the time, scouts claim them to be the next TOR and while many end up as decent starters, just not TOR.

Strasburg jumps to my mind, 100 MPH heater, great strike-out guy, but hasn't done as expected.

Ben McDonald for the Orioles was also that type of guy, sure fire prospect, supposed to be a front end starter.

[Frobby]

Strikingly similar to this interview: http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/147451-Tony-Pente-on-Inside-PressBox-Tune-into-ABC2NEWS-at-10-30-a-m-SUNDAY?p=3772490#post3772490

I think Tony is right to reserve judgment on Bundy. He got some pretty good reviews from his last start. It's a long season, and how he looks in July is more important than how he looks right this minute.

[Tony-OH]

How often do number #1 SP, turn out to be real #1?

You see guys drafted all the time, scouts claim them to be the next TOR and while many end up as decent starters, just not TOR.

Strasburg jumps to my mind, 100 MPH heater, great strike-out guy, but hasn't done as expected.

Ben McDonald for the Orioles was also that type of guy, sure fire prospect, supposed to be a front end starter.

Not many, that's why they are so rare. That's also why I said that I don't see Bundy as a disappointment yet. If he turns into a solid starter he was a good pick, even if he doesn't end up a TOR.

[webbrick2010]

How often do number #1 SP, turn out to be real #1?

You see guys drafted all the time, scouts claim them to be the next TOR and while many end up as decent starters, just not TOR.

Strasburg jumps to my mind, 100 MPH heater, great strike-out guy, but hasn't done as expected.

Ben McDonald for the Orioles was also that type of guy, sure fire prospect, supposed to be a front end starter.

Better question. Who was the last HS pitcher that the O's drafted that ever made it to the O's ML rotation?

I've go no one, unless you go back to Jim Palmer

[Frobby]

How often do number #1 SP, turn out to be real #1?

You see guys drafted all the time, scouts claim them to be the next TOR and while many end up as decent starters, just not TOR.

Strasburg jumps to my mind, 100 MPH heater, great strike-out guy, but hasn't done as expected.

Ben McDonald for the Orioles was also that type of guy, sure fire prospect, supposed to be a front end starter.

To me, those are bad examples. McDonald had a 115 ERA+ for his career, and though I'd agree he wasn't a no. 1, I'd easily call him a no. 2. It's a shame his career was cut short with injuries. Strasburg has a career ERA+ of 126, which is Palmer/Mussina territory, and he's still just 26 and may develop further. If Bundy turns out as well as either of those two, I'll be happy about it.

[Redskins Rick]

To me, those are bad examples. McDonald had a 115 ERA+ for his career, and though I'd agree he wasn't a no. 1, I'd easily call him a no. 2. It's a shame his career was cut short with injuries. Strasburg has a career ERA+ of 126, which is Palmer/Mussina territory, and he's still just 26 and may develop further. If Bundy turns out as well as either of those two, I'll be happy about it.

Starsburg, I guess by the numbers is in the territory of a number 1.

McDonald was supposed to be this really hot pitcher from LSU that got them a College World Series title by their manager abusing his arm.

Yes, I would call Ben a #2, but he wasn't an ACE.

[Frobby]

Better question. Who was the last HS pitcher that the O's drafted that ever made it to the O's ML rotation?

I've go no one, unless you go back to Jim Palmer

I'm sure there have been several. Storm Davis immediately comes to mind as coming along 15 years after Palmer. It also depends how long they have to have stuck to qualify for your list. Matt Riley and Hayden Penn both had periods in the O's rotation. Brad Bergesen was in our rotation in 2009-10 and parts of 2011. Zach Britton spent a full year in the O's rotation as recently as 2011.

[Frobby]

Starsburg, I guess by the numbers is in the territory of a number 1.

McDonald was supposed to be this really hot pitcher from LSU that got them a College World Series title by their manager abusing his arm.

Yes, I would call Ben a #2, but he wasn't an ACE.

Right, Mussina was supposed to be a no. 2 and turned out to be an ace, McDonald was supposed to be an ace and turned into a no. 2. That worked out OK.

[webbrick2010]

I'm sure there have been several. Storm Davis immediately comes to mind as coming along 15 years after Palmer. It also depends how long they have to have stuck to qualify for your list. Matt Riley and Hayden Penn both had periods in the O's rotation. Brad Bergesen was in our rotation in 2009-10 and parts of 2011. Zach Britton spent a full year in the O's rotation as recently as 2011.

Okay, perhaps there have been a few fringe guys. How about a guy who pitched > 450 innings? It's pretty sad how poor this organization has been in developing starting pitching. And yet it was insanity (according to most on OH) to trade Bundy+ for Justin Upton and give the 2015 team the best shot at making it deep into the playoffs

[weams]

Okay, perhaps there have been a few fringe guys. How about a guy who pitched > 450 innings? It's pretty sad how poor this organization has been in developing starting pitching. And yet it was insanity (according to most on OH) to trade Bundy+ for Justin Upton and give the 2015 team the best shot at making it deep into the playoffs

Is Upton going to be better this one year than Travis Snider will be for two? Let alone the years of Bundy control at WHATEVER production he returns? As someone who HAS seen Bundy pitch live this season I bet he makes a MLB impact. And would Atlanta have sent Upton for Bundy? How do you know it was not discussed?

[weams]

Okay, perhaps there have been a few fringe guys. How about a guy who pitched > 450 innings? It's pretty sad how poor this organization has been in developing starting pitching. And yet it was insanity (according to most on OH) to trade Bundy+ for Justin Upton and give the 2015 team the best shot at making it deep into the playoffs

Not fringe guys. Bedard brought back Tillman and Steve Johnson and Adam Jones.

[Redskins Rick]

Okay, perhaps there have been a few fringe guys. How about a guy who pitched > 450 innings? It's pretty sad how poor this organization has been in developing starting pitching. And yet it was insanity (according to most on OH) to trade Bundy+ for Justin Upton and give the 2015 team the best shot at making it deep into the playoffs

You like to slam the Orioles on developing pitching, don't you?

Regardless of how hard it is, and no organization does it, with any smashing success.

[weams]

We absolutely do get it. The Orioles stunk until Andy MacPhail arrived. ANd then Buck came aboard. And then Dan took it turbo. The Brick wants to talk about that horrible bad stuff. It's his right. He is not right about evaluating pitching prospects. I'll listen to the experts that I hear talk about Dylan.