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By Can_of_corn · Posted
Generous? You are aware that multiple players have hit the 10M mark as an Arb 1 right? -
Its a low risk scenario, so we may grab someone to get a look at them in spring training, but I don't expect the Orioles to keep anyone on the roster. There just isn't space. The bullpen may have a spot or two open, but several arms are lacking options and a Rule-5 guy wouldn't be able to be sent down. Elias (and most teams) like to have at least a spot or two that can be used to shuttle guys up and down in case of overwork. I don't see a guy worth taking a spot like that on a team that just won 101 games. -
By sportsfan8703 · Posted
Why not try and snag an arm in the rule 5? Not glamorous enough? What relievers are drafted/signed and turned to relievers before AA/AAA ball? Ben Joyce? So everyone is a failed SP. Either because of injury or performance. So why not take a flier on an arm when upper level pitching depth is a weakness of our org? We might never guess the player, but I think we can see that RH P is a need for us at the top of the system. The Yankees have a nasty bullpen. If they’ve been delaying converting a SP to a reliever then we should be all over that. That’s not being poor. That’s being smart, but we are poor. -
That’s a lot cheaper than the alternatives. Matz has kind of been up and down and has never been an innings eater. He finished real strong his last six starts but a lat strain ended his season. In some ways he has Oriole written all over him. The fact that he’s 32 and his career high in IP is 160 makes me question if he really is their kind of guy. -
By sportsfan8703 · Posted
If the team decided that Wells had just reached his innings limit and we just shut him down last year then I think the opinion of Wells’ 2023 season as a SP would be much different. We need a SP and a high leverage reliever for next year. What role is Wells in 2023? What’s best for Wells and the team long term? Is this decision going to be about Wells, or more based on what FA takes our offer? Whether that be a reliever or SP. People just write off Wells as a #5, but at the ASB you could make an argument for Wells, or Bradish, as who was our best SP. Wells was leading the AL in WHIP. Wells showed last year that he can be at least a #3 type of SP. Everyone has known since we took him in the Rule 5 draft that it was going to take some time to build him up to even 150-160 IP. Ok, so big deal… that didn’t happen in year two, and his first year starting full time. I don’t think the org just gives up on him as a SP like a lot have. I think he could be an All Star Closer. He would be our 3rd closer in a row to do that. That’s a very valuable role for us. But give me the SP that only gave up more than 3 ER three times in his first 18 starts. -
By sportsfan8703 · Posted
Matz is owed 2yr/$25 million. There’s no way that we’re paying that let alone trading for it. Trading isn’t a bad idea and I think it’s on the table for us if need be. -
By Billy F-Face3 · Posted
Mathematically this makes no sense. Holiday is under team controls for at least 6 years and probably more because he hasn't played a single At Bat in the Majors yet. So if you get 3 years of league minimum vs the $10M AAV, that's $27,840,000 MORE we are paying him in those 3 years. Let's add another $5M (assuming a $5M salary) in year4 / Arb1. Then another $3M (assuming a $7M salary) in year 5 Arb2. Then let's assume he hits payday and gets $15M arbitration bucks in year 6. Subtract $5. Assuming the next 2 years would be free agent money of $25 per, we can Subtract $30M. I was being generous with the arbitration guesses. And even then, the net result is that you're paying nearly an extra million dollars that you didn't have to, assuming all goes according to plan and he can play out the length of entire contract healthy. And assuming he's good.
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