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What is "batting around?"  

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  1. 1. What is "batting around?"

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This subject reminds me of the late Gino Cimoli, who set a dubious record while playing for the Orioles in 1964. In a game against the Senators, Gino was inserted into the game as a pinch-hitter and struck out. The Orioles batted around, and in his second AB of the inning, Cimoli struck out again, becoming the first major league player to strike out twice in the same inning as a pinch-hitter.

Gino's MLB career, which had started in 1956 and included playing in the 1960 WS for the Pirates, ended in May 1965, when he was released by the Angels. But he wasn't finished making records. In 1990, at the age of 60, he was honored by UPS for 21 years consecutive years of driving a delivery truck without an accident, which earned him the moniker, "The Lou Gehrig of UPS." Seriously. You can look it up.

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Broadcast announcers proclaim the team has batted around when the 9th batter comes to plate in the inning. They announce the batters second appearance as such. One rotation concludes batting around. The ninth batter does not have to get on base to complete the cycle. A trip a trip around the world from Baltimore does not mean you have to land at an obscure airport east of Baltimore to complete the circumnavigation.

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To me it's ten or more because "batting around" means that the guy that leadoff the inning, bats for a second time in the inning. I know Gary (or maybe it's Hunter) considers it to be when the 9th man in the lineup comes to bat in the inning...which I don't really agree with.

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Why wouldnt 9? Once 9 have batted you're right back to the exact same spot in the order? #10 would be next man up, just like the inning started.

Yeah but if the 9th batter makes the third out and 10th batter doesn't bat, did you bat around?

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Around has a circular reference. When you complete one circumference of a circle from a point on the circle back to the same point, you have gone "around" the circle. You do not have to pass the point. 9 is the answer

I don't see how that's correct. The 1st point and the 9th point, in the circle, aren't going to be the same point.

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Broadcast announcers proclaim the team has batted around when the 9th batter comes to plate in the inning. They announce the batters second appearance as such. One rotation concludes batting around. The ninth batter does not have to get on base to complete the cycle. A trip a trip around the world from Baltimore does not mean you have to land at an obscure airport east of Baltimore to complete the circumnavigation.

On this trip around the world, from Baltimore, would you end up back in Baltimore, after going around the world?

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Broadcast announcers proclaim the team has batted around when the 9th batter comes to plate in the inning. They announce the batters second appearance as such.

It's not as though there is a "right" answer, but I disagree that most announcers mention "batting around," unless a batter comes up for the second time. I think that's the more common usage.

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I guess somebody has been ready WSJ.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/mlb-heres-a-perplexing-question-to-bat-around-1429571356

My opinion.

Ten or more.

Like many others have pointed out, you dont come back around until the guy bats a 2nd time in the inning.

Pretty much. Look at it this way: If you leave your house and take your dog for a walk around the neighborhood, have you walked around the neighborhood if you don't make it back to your house?

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Think of the "around" (circular reference, as a previous poster stated) like the face of a clock. Just imagine that there are nine numbers on the clock instead of 12. If you play "connect the dots" from 1 to 2 then from 2 to 3 and so on, you don't have a complete (closed) circle until you connect the final number to "1" again. So, "around" means one guy bats twice: it starts with him and ends no earlier than reaching him again. Short of that happening, theyre'd be a gap in the connect-the-dots circle.

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Think of the "around" (circular reference, as a previous poster stated) like the face of a clock. Just imagine that there are nine numbers on the clock instead of 12. If you play "connect the dots" from 1 to 2 then from 2 to 3 and so on, you don't have a complete (closed) circle until you connect the final number to "1" again. So, "around" means one guy bats twice: it starts with him and ends no earlier than reaching him again. Short of that happening, theyre'd be a gap in the connect-the-dots circle.

No, if you start at 9, the circle is closed when you get back to 9. I believe you have batted around after the conclusion of the 9th AB. As soon as his AB is over, the circle is closed.

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No, if you start at 9, the circle is closed when you get back to 9. I believe you have batted around after the conclusion of the 9th AB. As soon as his AB is over, the circle is closed.

You don't start with 9. You start with 1. Batter number 1. The first batter of the inning. If the inning ends with the 9th batter, then there's a gap from 9 to 1.

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