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I agree with most of this. However, the O's are in a particularly precarious situation. They've lost for 10 straight years. They've been ravaged by scandals, poor attendance, a new rival down I-95, and regular invasions of Red Sox and Yankees fans in their home park. They've traded two of their biggest stars and are on the verge of trading a third who is also their most popular community guy. They're settling in for a long rebuilding process of which Markakis is the centerpiece. Once the Roberts deal is finally completed, he'll be the only player on the team the average fan has any kind of identification with.

Basically, they're in a position where they absolutely can't afford to piss off Nick Markakis. That puts him in a position of power. Maybe he was being overly greedy or maybe not, but they're asking a lot of him. They're not just asking him to be the best player on the team, they're speaking publicly about how they want him to be a team leader even though he has a quiet personality and is still one of the youngest players on the team. They're plastering his face all over town in their PR material because they don't have anybody else marketable that they aren't in the process of trying to trade. Given all of that, I don't understand how they couldn't at least give him the $1 million the Yankees gave Robinson Cano last year with slightly less service time when the Yankees weren't in a position where they were asking Cano to be the be-all and end-all for their franchise. Even if they didn't meet his demands, he should have gotten more than a $55,000 raise given all they're asking of him.

You tell him sister!!! ;)

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Always interesting to see what others who are not on the OH think:

http://myespn.go.com/s/conversations/show/story/3277048

I've never really read any type of ESPN message board but after reading this I'm glad i don't. MOst of these people are complete idiots who are just talking without any facts and using the same old sports talk rhetoric of "They should just be happy with what they make," :( or they are red sox "fans" who didn't know baseball existed until 4 years ago.

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I don't understand how this is big news? Why would ESPN have this as a top story? It's barely newsworthy IMO.

It is Dave Ginsburg (AP writer) view that Markakis was "miffed". He said this on Rob Long's show. Ginsburg even mentioned Markakis was looking for $9 Million! I don't know what that exactly means, but if that's $9MM a year then Markakis' agent is crazy.

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I've never really read any type of ESPN message board but after reading this I'm glad i don't. MOst of these people are complete idiots who are just talking without any facts and using the same old sports talk rhetoric of "They should just be happy with what they make," :( or they are red sox "fans" who didn't know baseball existed until 4 years ago.

Yeah, I agree. Some really dumb comments in there.

Figured it'd be some good :rolleyes: material :)

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Since we don't know what Nick demanded I'm not going pass too much judgment on this. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that Nick is worth more than what he is going to be paid this year but I have a couple thoughts on this.

My first thought is that from the Orioles side. Nick is a growing star in baseball, but he is not a true star yet. I read in the thread about how someone made the comparison of Robinson Cano and his large pay raise. Unfortunately I don't think you can compare the two. Robinson was an All-Star in 2006 and has a silver slugger award. By giving Nick a huge pay raise would set a standard with the O's and how they will be treating all of their younger players if they have good years before they can reach arbitration. Also, Nick has just one more year until he gets to arbitration to argue how much he is truly worth. So until then, he has to go by the slotting that the Orioles believe him to be in. So I think the Orioles have a valid argument on their side.

However, the Orioles are making a move here that may affect them in the future. I hope this cut that Nick apparently has because of what was done heals and no hard feelings are around when he goes up for free agency or whatever. I believe him to be worth more than the pay raise the Orioles gave him. From what we have seen, he is going to be marketed as the flagship Oriole player and by doing so, he deserves to be paid more. The Orioles have the future 8 years or so locked up in left field and shouldn't do anything to jeopardize that stability.

Go O's!!

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When it's abiding by the terms of a contract, I don't see how it could be "collusion". More likely, the players' union is trying to get the young stars to piss and moan so that Tulowitzki-type deals become more of the norm.

I know it's within the rules, but it's still surprising to see so many excellent young players being simply renewed this offseason. To me, it feels like a concerted effort by the owners to keep down costs with this sort of player.

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Per Dan Connolly, the difference was about $360,000. To a freaking Major League Baseball team is $360,000 really worth alienating the one player you're very publicly trying to build around?

Because of a glaring lack of a supporting cast, he is probably more important to this rebuilding club than any other sub-25-year-old is to any other team in baseball.

Yet Markakis makes less money than the majority of his teammates on this struggling club. His good buddy and contemporary, pitcher Adam Loewen, will get $816,000 in 2008. Markakis, who batted .300 with 23 homers and 112 RBIs in 2007, would have liked a little more than that.

However, Loewen and Orioles starter Jeremy Guthrie ($775,000 in 2008) each signed a major league deal with a signing bonus spread out over several years when drafted. That affects their annual salaries, which consequently are not subject to the structure determined by the club.

"We have a salary structure and we have a couple players that fall outside of it based on their amateur signing bonuses," MacPhail said. "I think that's one of the issues Nick had, but you have to be consistent."

There were no negotiations in determining Markakis' 2008 salary. There was a gap of about $360,000, and neither side felt the other would offer wiggle room.

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Not sure how much Nick was looking for but I sure wish the O's would have been able to at lease give him something extra. When I place a great deal of value on someone, I try to make sure that they come away feeling like they at least gained some ground. I hope Nick doesn't read too much into this and become unhappy in Baltimore. I really enjoy having him on the team!

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Per Dan Connolly, the difference was about $360,000. To a freaking Major League Baseball team is $360,000 really worth alienating the one player you're very publicly trying to build around?

Yes, because it's not really just a $360,000 difference. The amount he makes this year will be used as a precedent in his first arbitration case, which will in turn be used as a precedent in his next arbitration case, etc. Overall, I bet that $360,000 now could add up to at least $10 million before he hits free agency.

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Yes, because it's not really just a $360,000 difference. The amount he makes this year will be used as a precedent in his first arbitration case, which will in turn be used as a precedent in his next arbitration case, etc. Overall, I bet that $360,000 now could add up to at least $10 million before he hits free agency.

Exactly. That number will just become exponential in the coming years.

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Yes, because it's not really just a $360,000 difference. The amount he makes this year will be used as a precedent in his first arbitration case, which will in turn be used as a precedent in his next arbitration case, etc. Overall, I bet that $360,000 now could add up to at least $10 million before he hits free agency.
If Nick were a FA this year he would get more than 10 $mil. I would much rather have Markakis than Cano. Nick will not come near to his ceiling this year, while Cano IMO has pretty much reaced it. Nick would love to play in Atlanta. The O's are helping to insure the he will, along with Tiex. Bit thats OK, Stan Musial type RF's are growing on trees.:rolleyes:
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If Nick were a FA this year he would get more than 10 $mil. I would much rather have Markakis than Cano. Nick will not come near to his ceiling this year, while Cano IMO has pretty much reaced it. Nick would love to play in Atlanta. The O's are helping to insure the he will, along with Tiex. Bit thats OK, Stan Musial type RF's are growing on trees.:rolleyes:

But he isn't a free agent in the current system so that doesn't make any sense. If Markakis were a free agent, then a lot of other young players would also be free agents, and they would each earn less money on the open market. So we should pay Markakis $10 million more than we have to for no reason?

Also, I don't see where the Cano comparison is coming in. Markakis made $400,000 in his second year, while Cano made $490,800. What's the big deal? Also, I don't know what Cano's contract was like coming out of the Dominican. Anyway, he signed an extension, so it's not really comparable.

According to Cot's baseball contracts:

# signed extension 2/08 (avoided arbitration, $4.55M-$3.2M)

# 08:$3M, 09:$6M, 10:$9M, 11:$10M, 12:$14M club option ($2M buyout), 13:$15M club option ($2M buyout)

# 1 year/$490,800 (2007), re-signed 3/07

# 1 year/$0.381M (2006)

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Yesterday, he said he'd still embrace the opportunity to be the long-term face of the organization - assuming he was content with the overall situation.

"Absolutely. I think it would be something I would look forward to being," Markakis said. "It would be an honor to be looked at like that."

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