Gausman needs more innings

[mdbdotcom]

If Gausman is going to be in the rotation next year and be counted on to pitch 180 innings or so, he needs to pitch around 150 innings this year. So far, he is at 11 (fewer than Bundy), which puts him on track for far fewer than he needs.

My hope is that Bud Norris pitches well enough over the next couple of weeks to get traded, so Gausman can enter the rotation and Steve Johnson (or, a reliever with options) can join the team.

Your thoughts?

[Tx Oriole]

If Gausman is going to be in the rotation next year and be counted on to pitch 180 innings or so, he needs to pitch around 150 innings this year. So far, he is at 11 (fewer than Bundy), which puts him on track for far fewer than he needs.

My hope is that Bud Norris pitches well enough over the next couple of weeks to get traded, so Gausman can enter the rotation and Steve Johnson (or, a reliever with options) can join the team.

Your thoughts?

My thoughts are I am glad it's up to DD and Buck.

[Aglets]

Pretty good point.

The thing is there's a good argument that Gausman RIGHT NOW has a ton of value to the O's as a high leverage reliever (think Miller last year, or one of the horses the Royals have on the back end).........and we need someone reliable in front of Britton. I personally don't have a ton of faith in guys like Hunter/Brach just yet.

I guess O'Day is another option.

But if Gausman pitches in that role he'll likely only end up in the 70-90 innings range which definitely doesn't set him up to be a full SP contributor in 2016.

[Redskins Rick]

He needs more innings if they want him to be a starter. But I'm not sure they want him to be a starter right now. If and when someone gets injured or traded, they'll slowly extend him, using a long reliever to back him up for the first game or two. It's not ideal, but they've done it before.

Not that Buck normally lets the guys throw 8 innings or more.

[Bahama O's Fan]

I was really thinking he should go to AAA to get regular starts until one of our starters craps out. But in Buck and DD I trust.

[sportsfan8703]

I'd rather have him in the role he is in now rather than throwing 5 inning starts in a 6 man rotation in Norfolk. This is way better for his development. He can work with Chiti and Wallace and only have to worry about short outings and not having to work through a lineup 2-3 times.

[Camden_yardbird]

No one is going to get traded. Someone WILL get injured.

[Can_of_corn]

If Gausman is going to be in the rotation next year and be counted on to pitch 180 innings or so, he needs to pitch around 150 innings this year. So far, he is at 11 (fewer than Bundy), which puts him on track for far fewer than he needs.

My hope is that Bud Norris pitches well enough over the next couple of weeks to get traded, so Gausman can enter the rotation and Steve Johnson (or, a reliever with options) can join the team.

Your thoughts?

Your basic premise is flawed.

He threw 164 and change in 2014.

That out of the way, yes he needs to get more innings. Norris' high wire act the other day probably got him at least three more starts to turn things around so I don't see things changing anytime soon.

[TheDirtyBird]

Gausman won't be in the rotation for another couple years. We'll prob either put him back into the minors or keep him as a bullpen arm. Who cares about his potential when we have such solid starters. (I'm obviously kidding about all of this.)

[gmelson26]

I saw this amazing stat in the LA Times. The average number of STARTING PITCHERS a MLB team uses during the season is….9!!!

Nine starters at some point or other during the season. Some teams use more. A few teams less. That stat alone will tell you that you can't have enough starting pitcher prospects. Gausman is one. So is Steve Johnson. So is Bundy. We will probably use them all this year. The days of Freddy Garcia or Rich Hill or Adam Eaton in Baltimore are over. We've got some talent in the wings.

I imagine September call ups colors that number a decent bit though.

[Sanfran327]

If it weren't for the fact that Bud had a decent start his last time out, I'd be in favor of switching Norris and Gausman. But I can't help but wonder if the O's want Bud to get a bit better before trying to send him to the Dodgers.

[mdbdotcom]

Your basic premise is flawed.

He threw 164 and change in 2014.

That out of the way, yes he needs to get more innings. Norris' high wire act the other day probably got him at least three more starts to turn things around so I don't see things changing anytime soon.

And he threw 130 innings in 2013 before throwing 164 last year. If he keeps throwing at the current rate, he'll be at about 120 IP by the end of the season. My basic premise is, that won't prepare him to throw 180 next season. Not sure how that's wrong, as I don't think they like a 50 inning bump in one season, especially for a young pitcher.

[Can_of_corn]

And he threw 130 innings in 2013 before throwing 164 last year. If he keeps throwing at the current rate, he'll be at about 120 IP by the end of the season. My basic premise is, that won't prepare him to throw 180 next season. Not sure how that's wrong, as I don't think they like a 50 inning bump in one season, especially for a young pitcher.

And your basic premise is wrong. His 164 last year is proper preparation for 180 next year. If a guy slides back in innings in a particular season you used his career high as the guide. He isn't going to forget how to prepare himself for a full season by spending a year in the pen.

Anyway you have guys like Sale who jump from 71 to 192.

[mdbdotcom]

And your basic premise is wrong. His 164 last year is proper preparation for 180 next year. If a guy slides back in innings in a particular season you used his career high as the guide. He isn't going to forget how to prepare himself for a full season by spending a year in the pen.

Anyway you have guys like Sale who jump from 71 to 192.

Okay, now I know. Thanks for explaining.

[Can_of_corn]

Okay, now I know. Thanks for explaining.

Of course that doesn't mean the O's feel that way.

That is just my understanding from what I have read.