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Orioles trade away two international bonus slots for Astros LHP Chris Lee

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Nope.

The best way to go is: Target game changing prospect(s) and go all in blowing past the cap. Pay the penalties and go small the next two seasons.

But that is something we know won't happen here.

I agree. I was talking about an org that has an aversion to int'l spending. Incremental steps. If you have the scouting apparatus, the cash, the plan and the prospects like Sano, Mazara or the Brazilian version of Bryce Harper, then I say go for it!

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I agree. I was talking about an org that has an aversion to int'l spending. Incremental steps. If you have the scouting apparatus, the cash, the plan and the prospects like Sano, Mazara or the Brazilian version of Bryce Harper, then I say go for it!

The Brazilian version of Bryce Harper is playing football. ;)

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Nope.

The best way to go is: Target game changing prospect(s) and go all in blowing past the cap. Pay the penalties and go small the next two seasons.

But that is something we know won't happen here.

Who are the successful teams that do this?

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Who are the successful teams that do this?

Well considering that the cap has only been in place a couple of years the sample size is small and the players in question are not in the majors at this point you can't call any of them successful at this time..

The Red Sox blew up their budget for Moncada. The Yankees signed 21 players for somewhere near $12 million last July. So there are two of them in the O's division.

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We need to be rooting hard for an international draft. At least DD got something for nothing. Like I said a few pages back, he's basically a Tarpley replacement. Same age, similar draft position.

Frederick has used 19 pitchers so far this year. Lee would be the youngest pitcher we have at Frederick. Which is where I see him going. I'd say he's in our top 20.

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We need to be rooting hard for an international draft. At least DD got something for nothing. Like I said a few pages back, he's basically a Tarpley replacement. Same age, similar draft position.

Frederick has used 19 pitchers so far this year. Lee would be the youngest pitcher we have at Frederick. Which is where I see him going. I'd say he's in our top 20.

That's sad, because he's not young for high A ball. He'll be 23 in August.

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That's sad, because he's not young for high A ball. He'll be 23 in August.

Not confirmable (yet) because teams don't talk about it but it would not surprise me if the progressive clubs are moving towards promoting players (outside of phenoms) later and focusing on developing them for use in their "peak years" with the understanding they aren't going to sign them long term and want the best years to be under team control. If I am correct in that thinking, the calculus used in making the determination as to who you push and who you sculpt for a four to five year productive period would be complex.

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Not confirmable (yet) because teams don't talk about it but it would not surprise me if the progressive clubs are moving towards promoting players (outside of phenoms) later and focusing on developing them for use in their "peak years" with the understanding they aren't going to sign them long term and want the best years to be under team control. If I am correct in that thinking, the calculus used in making the determination as to who you push and who you sculpt for a four to five year productive period would be complex.

That is intriguing. So would that mean defense first types would be fast-tracked since defense peaks early?

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So is it that Orioles ownership does not believe in giving this kind of money to 16- and 17-year-old kids or is the philosophy driven by Dan Duquette? Or is it something else?

No. Dan Duquette did not bring this philosophy to the Orioles. In Peter Angelos' mind Andy MacPhail saved this franchise. And Andy hated the Pelotera. And Andy told Peter they were never 16.

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