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I've been a diehard O's fan since birth. I don't live in MD, but remember watching the O's on HTS and making the trip up once a summer. My first game was the 97 ALDS where we knocked the Mariners out of the playoffs. First game I ever went to not only did I get to see multiple HOFers but also met a high up at Legg Mason and was sitting in the skybox by the 7th inning, an awesome memory for an 8 year old kid. I don't miss a game, I follow all of the affiliates, and attend over 30 minor and major league games a year.

I had to say that to say this: I have been looking at this site for a year now and have yet to post or even make a name til recent. I have never understood the "Fair-weatherness" of our fans, nor the extreme band wagon fans we have. When we're bad they can't give tickets away, if we're not 10 games above .500 most people on this site are ready to abandon ship! Guys don't you have faith in our squad and Buck?

Our starting pitching is stacked right now, our worst starter could be some teams #3 guy. We have arms coming up and some that have just arrived.

I want to see more faith from you guys and BACK THESE BIRDS!

Welcome and you're free to any opinion you want, but the bolded quote above is just a huge exaggeration. There are fans who get frustrated and fans who find fault with everything, and there are a very small percentage of fans that meet the definition you stated above, but for the most part, the majority of fans on the Hangout are about as diehard as you can get and follow and support this team no matter what.

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Welcome to the OH!

I understand what you're saying, but to be honest, I've rarely seen bandwagon people on the OH. Much of the board is composed of a lot of long-time fans who've been here since the very bad years.

Even the newer folks seem to be even-handed.

You might be reacting to the deep - and diametrically opposed - chasms of belief that exist on here about the best ways to improve the team. It can get nasty, but I do feel we're all passionate and in here for the long term.

There's a lot I hate about the Orioles front office, but I love the team.

MSK

To these people, I ask, "if you hate an 85 year old man, is HE the problem or are you?"

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So then you "hate" (your words, not mine) the only front office that has put 3 straight winning teams on the field after 14 years of losing?

Yes. I don't credit the front office for our guys playing over their abilities for the last three seasons. I credit our guys.

When the front office does everything they can to stand pat for the sake of being cheap and not explore every possible option to improve (like, say, the international scene), then I have a problem. Yes I do.

When the front office stands still while other teams make blockbuster signings and/or trades to improve, then yes, that's a problem.

Pity you don't see how that works.

MSK

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Yes. I don't credit the front office for our guys playing over their abilities for the last three seasons. I credit our guys.

When the front office does everything they can to stand pat for the sake of being cheap and not explore every possible option to improve (like, say, the international scene), then I have a problem. Yes I do.

When the front office stands still while other teams make blockbuster signings and/or trades to improve, then yes, that's a problem.

Pity you don't see how that works.

MSK

So who exactly put these guys together so they could overperform. It is a pity you don't see how that works.

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So then you "hate" (your words, not mine) the only front office that has put 3 straight winning teams on the field after 14 years of losing?

It is an incredibly good front office and anyone that hates it is not going to have success playing Orioles fan.

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A former poster who will not be mentioned hated ANdy MacPhail because even though Peter Angelos wanted to spend money to contend with the big boys, Andy would not let him. That poster had a following. I do not see that Dan Duquette has a tremendously different budget than Andy could have had.

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A former poster who will not be mentioned hated ANdy MacPhail because even though Peter Angelos wanted to spend money to contend with the big boys, Andy would not let him. That poster had a following. I do not see that Dan Duquette has a tremendously different budget than Andy could have had.

"The first cry of alarm that high salaries were threatening baseball's survival had come just three years after the National League was born. At a meeting in September 1879, the club owners recognized that the high salaries were attributable to competition among clubs for certain players. They vowed that at a certain level there would be no more "exorbitant" salary offers made to any players...."It is ridiculous to pay ball players $2,000 a year, especially when $8oo boys often do just as well." owner William Hulbert declared. "

Norman L. Macht. Connie Mack and the Early Years of Baseball

This is not a new problem. Back then there were probably fans who were bashing their owners because they would not go for the $2,000 players, rather going with the $800 boys.

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Scott, speaking of shapes and sizes, who is the avatar you been sporting.... she's messing with my reading comprehension. :P

Erika Christensen. I saw her in a chick flick, The Upside of Anger. Ain't she stunning? :eek:

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It is an incredibly good front office and anyone that hates it is not going to have success playing Orioles fan.

I wasn't aware being an Orioles fan was something someone "played" at.

Either you're a fan or you're not.

Not liking the front office has nothing to do with my feelings for the team.

That's like saying you hate the United States if you distrust or hate the federal government.

MSK

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