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This is the order that I want to see our bullpen arms in crucial situations.

1. Britton

2. O'Day

3. Brach

4. Drake

5. Hunter

6. Roe

7. Matusz

If Gausman or Steve Johnson were in our bullpen I would like them ahead of Hunter. Your sixth and seven bullpen arms should rarely get in the game in crucial situations, so I think it's important to establish an order. Buck still seems to have too much faith in Matusz and Hunter to a lesser extent IMO. Despute Matusz's decent looking numbers I think we can all agree he is unreliable, even against lefties. There is no need to have him in there in ANY crucial situation. Brach and Drake can get the lefties out.

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I think we're starting to see the A list and the B list lately.

Notice Matusz and Hunter have been brought in games where the O's are losing.

The biggest issue with Matusz is he has no control even against lefties. A lot of deep counts/walks or flares when he falls behind.

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I think we're starting to see the A list and the B list lately.

Notice Matusz and Hunter have been brought in games where the O's are losing.

The biggest issue with Matusz is he has no control even against lefties. A lot of deep counts/walks or flares when he falls behind.

His command is so inconsistent his stuff is just so mediocre. If there are inherited runners on base you can pretty much count on them scoring. I'm ready to see the team move on if/when Wesley Wright comes back if he's at all effective.

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Drake just walked three guys today. He has done great so far and I am very excited about him long term but he still needs to earn his way up the hierarchy before throwing him into big situations. I am OK with Matusz IF you are talking about him for LOOGY matchups. Sounds like some moves may be coming so it is possible Roe and/or Drake aren't even on the team tomorrow or a week from now.

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Drake just walked three guys today. He has done great so far and I am very excited about him long term but he still needs to earn his way up the hierarchy before throwing him into big situations. I am OK with Matusz IF you are talking about him for LOOGY matchups. Sounds like some moves may be coming so it is possible Roe and/or Drake aren't even on the team tomorrow or a week from now.

Drake was getting squeezed by the ump and the White Sox hitters weren't biting on the splitter. He may need to throw more fastballs earlier in the count to get the swing and miss because he was locating the splitter really well down in the zone. I think he looked fine and really like his potential to be good arm for us out of the pen.

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Personally, I don't want to see Hunter or Matusz again. I always get the "it's over now feeling", when the come in.

My thoughts exactly. I really don't want to see either of those guys enter a game.

For whatever reason, I hadn't given up on Matusz until the other night when he let both of Tommy's runners score. Heck, that was the first game that I could even give a shout out to Tommy for in a long time. Obviously putting runners on 1st/3rd with 0 outs isn't good. (But) at least he showed some nads in getting 2 straight weak grounders to cut down runners from 3rd.

Why Buck decided to bring Matusz in there ... well, I know why he brought him in ... but at least now I have it out of my system. I too am done with Matusz. Please move along Dan, at least when Wesley comes back.

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My thoughts exactly. I really don't want to see either of those guys enter a game.

For whatever reason, I hadn't given up on Matusz until the other night when he let both of Tommy's runners score. Heck, that was the first game that I could even give a shout out to Tommy for in a long time. Obviously putting runners on 1st/3rd with 0 outs isn't good. (But) at least he showed some nads in getting 2 straight weak grounders to cut down runners from 3rd.

Why Buck decided to bring Matusz in there ... well, I know why he brought him in ... but at least now I have it out of my system. I too am done with Matusz. Please move along Dan, at least when Wesley comes back.

If ever a player was "due" for a change of scenery--it's Matusz. We'd be lucky to get a "bag o' balls" or a "case of catfish steaks" (actually happened in an independent league a few years ago) for him at present. As a high 1'st round draft choice we have to admit that he's been pretty much a "bust". The O's have squeezed everything possible out of him, but at the end of the day he "is what he is". It's time to DFA and move forward. Just my opinion and I will wish him the best...

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This is the order that I want to see our bullpen arms in crucial situations.

1. Britton

2. O'Day

3. Brach

4. Drake

5. Hunter

6. Roe

7. Matusz

If Gausman or Steve Johnson were in our bullpen I would like them ahead of Hunter. Your sixth and seven bullpen arms should rarely get in the game in crucial situations, so I think it's important to establish an order. Buck still seems to have too much faith in Matusz and Hunter to a lesser extent IMO. Despute Matusz's decent looking numbers I think we can all agree he is unreliable, even against lefties. There is no need to have him in there in ANY crucial situation. Brach and Drake can get the lefties out.

A .214/.267/.321 line against lefties is "unreliable"?

How about an 8 K/BB?

Pretty sure Matusz can get lefties out with the best of 'em. He just needs to stop being overexposed against righties.

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