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I'm thinking it's Alvarez time and that Lough is gone. I could see Alvarez slashing 270/300/400 and playing +defense in LF/RF. Lough could probably fetch us another teams top 30 prospect. Since the beginning of the year he's acquired O'Brien, Rowen, Lee, Boston guy.

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Hard to imagine he wouldn't have greater offensive upside than Lough at this point and that he could not potentially be as good or better in RF (based on what I've heard). Then again, I have not seen Alvarez play, only seen stats and heard things at this point.

Arm is great, speed is average to below average. He won't be as good as Lough defensively due to lack of range. Why is it hard to imagine he wouldn't have more offensive upside? He isn't young and he's OPSing .657 at AAA. Lough had some pretty decent minor league numbers that were well in line with Alvarez. I see Alvarez as being a potential .700ish OPS bat with above average defense. Which is basically David Lough, minus the elite defense and speed.

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Arm is great, speed is average to below average. He won't be as good as Lough defensively due to lack of range. Why is it hard to imagine he wouldn't have more offensive upside? He isn't young and he's OPSing .657 at AAA. Lough had some pretty decent minor league numbers that were well in line with Alvarez. I see Alvarez as being a potential .700ish OPS bat with above average defense. Which is basically David Lough, minus the elite defense and speed..

I don't know much about Alverez so I won't comment on him, but I agree with everything you say about Lough. As much as Buck loves his defense, I honestly don't understand why Lough doesn't get more playing time.

The only thing I can see is because the team is slumping so bad, maybe Buck is looking for as much offense as he can get. If the rest of the team was hitting as expected/hoped, I believe Buck with go with the best defender in Lough in left and I truly believe he would hit enough to earn the starting gig.

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Arm is great, speed is average to below average. He won't be as good as Lough defensively due to lack of range. Why is it hard to imagine he wouldn't have more offensive upside? He isn't young and he's OPSing .657 at AAA. Lough had some pretty decent minor league numbers that were well in line with Alvarez. I see Alvarez as being a potential .700ish OPS bat with above average defense. Which is basically David Lough, minus the elite defense and speed.

I'm with you on this. Unless its a definitive upgrade, I'm of the mindset of keeping Lough. Neither Alvarez or Reimold meets that criteria simply because they are not center fielders.

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Arm is great, speed is average to below average. He won't be as good as Lough defensively due to lack of range. Why is it hard to imagine he wouldn't have more offensive upside? He isn't young and he's OPSing .657 at AAA. Lough had some pretty decent minor league numbers that were well in line with Alvarez. I see Alvarez as being a potential .700ish OPS bat with above average defense. Which is basically David Lough, minus the elite defense and speed.

Again, I have not seen Alvarez play but the skillsets sound to me like Alvarez is more suited for RF and Lough is more suited for LF. In this case we're clearly looking at Alvarez to be a right fielder.

Lough has a ML 89 OPS+ in 656 PA's. That generally being platooned/selective playing time. His minor league numbers were inflated by PCL and good years with high babips'. I have seen nothing to suggest that Lough is a full time player or even a platoon player. Nor do i think it's a very good idea to bank Lough's production based on defense. Alvarez has played in Norfolk and has a Cuban background. He did fine last year and got off to a slow start this year. It looks to me like he has BA skills and some power. Now Alvarez may very well flame out badly, but lets just say I find it hard to fathom that Alvarez does not have more offensive upside than Lough at this point.

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Arm is great, speed is average to below average. He won't be as good as Lough defensively due to lack of range. Why is it hard to imagine he wouldn't have more offensive upside? He isn't young and he's OPSing .657 at AAA. Lough had some pretty decent minor league numbers that were well in line with Alvarez. I see Alvarez as being a potential .700ish OPS bat with above average defense. Which is basically David Lough, minus the elite defense and speed.

Does he make boneheaded plays? Will he run into outs? Will he throw to the wrong base? Will every play be an adventure?

Those may be Buck's first questions at this point.

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Does he make boneheaded plays? Will he run into outs? Will he throw to the wrong base? Will every play be an adventure?

Those may be Buck's first questions at this point.

Bill Ripken was on Scott G's show the other afternoon and had this to said.

Every player including him and Cal Jr, has done stupid things as a player, losing track of outs and stuff. You get over and try not to let it happen, but it does, and you can only beat yourself up over.

he talked about his own blunder, he pulled a double play at 2nd, getting the 2nd of two outs, and didnt brother to throw to first to get the runner, he rolled the ball to the pitcher's mound and started to jog off the field.

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