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I hope Wieters gets on fire, stays on fire, and then come July, a contending team with some great hitting upper level prospects to burn, has a need at catcher.

With so many free agents at the end of the year, this is the year for DD to cash in and rebuild this club for the future. That doesn't mean he needs to go into total rebuild mode, but it does mean players like Wieters, Chen, Davis, Norris and O'Day could be valuable chips in that effort come July.

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I hope Wieters gets on fire, stays on fire, and then come July, a contending team with some great hitting upper level prospects to burn, has a need at catcher.

With so many free agents at the end of the year, this is the year for DD to cash in and rebuild this club for the future. That doesn't mean he needs to go into total rebuild mode, but it does mean players like Wieters, Chen, Davis, Norris and O'Day could be valuable chips in that effort come July.

personally, I would not shocked if DD didn't pull the trigger on one deal.

Nor would I get worked up, if he couldn't find a dance partner.

I do not expect to see a fire sale either, unlike some posters are lobbying for.

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I hope Wieters gets on fire, stays on fire, and then come July, a contending team with some great hitting upper level prospects to burn, has a need at catcher.

With so many free agents at the end of the year, this is the year for DD to cash in and rebuild this club for the future. That doesn't mean he needs to go into total rebuild mode, but it does mean players like Wieters, Chen, Davis, Norris and O'Day could be valuable chips in that effort come July.

I hope they pull the trigger. I agree with you, but doubt they will.

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personally, I would not shocked if DD didn't pull the trigger on one deal.

Nor would I get worked up, if he couldn't find a dance partner.

I do not expect to see a fire sale either, unlike some posters are lobbying for.

I think we should be sellers if we can get good value. Not a fire sale, but MW or Chen or anyone that they know they won't be signing.

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I hope Wieters gets on fire, stays on fire, and then come July, a contending team with some great hitting upper level prospects to burn, has a need at catcher.

With so many free agents at the end of the year, this is the year for DD to cash in and rebuild this club for the future. That doesn't mean he needs to go into total rebuild mode, but it does mean players like Wieters, Chen, Davis, Norris and O'Day could be valuable chips in that effort come July.

A corner OF would be pretty nice.

If MW can bring back a prospect of significance that DD has to consider it.

I am going to be curious to see how DD handles the trade deadline.

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personally, I would not shocked if DD didn't pull the trigger on one deal.

Nor would I get worked up, if he couldn't find a dance partner.

I do not expect to see a fire sale either, unlike some posters are lobbying for.

Let's be honest....barring a Bedard like trade, there is NOTHING Duke can do to make everyone happy. If we stand pat, people will say he is not focused on improving the Orioles because he wants to leave for Toronto. If we make trades, we will second guess him until the end of days (see ERod for Miller, Strop and Arrietta for Feldman, etc.). There really is no winning for Duke in this situation, unless we sign Matt to a team friendly 5 year extension. I'm sure Boras would be okay with that. ;)

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Let's be honest....barring a Bedard like trade, there is NOTHING Duke can do to make everyone happy. If we stand pat, people will say he is not focused on improving the Orioles because he wants to leave for Toronto. If we make trades, we will second guess him until the end of days (see ERod for Miller, Strop and Arrietta for Feldman, etc.). There really is no winning for Duke in this situation, unless we sign Matt to a team friendly 5 year extension. I'm sure Boras would be okay with that. ;)

Of course even then that could blow up, see Roberts, B.; Markakis, N. and Hardy, JJ.

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I think we should be sellers if we can get good value. Not a fire sale, but MW or Chen or anyone that they know they won't be signing.

I think its still just a bit to early to predict if we should be sellers or buyers.

Any deal that could bring in legit near major league talent should be considered. I would not give guys away but if I were DD I would be listening.

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The Matt haters would be up in arms, if they even resigned Matt to a 1 year deal.

Not a MW hater. I would start MW over CJ any day.

That said I am not going to give Matt the 100 million or so it would take to sign him before he hits the market when I got a guy who is serviceable in CJ who can hold the spot down while a few prospects continue to develop.

If the O's had Taylor Teagarden as their next best option then I would be all for doing whatever needs to be done to keep him, reality is CJ can be a solid catcher on a very good team, so the resources are best spent elsewhere IMO. So that is why I would be up in arms, not because of some perceived hate for MW.

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Not a MW hater. I would start MW over CJ any day.

That said I am not going to give Matt the 100 million or so it would take to sign him before he hits the market when I got a guy who is serviceable in CJ who can hold the spot down while a few prospects continue to develop.

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As would I.

But, I have heard so much crapola from the Matt Wieters haters, about how he is a poor pitch framer, and nothing more that replacement level catcher.

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Of course even then that could blow up, see Roberts, B.; Markakis, N. and Hardy, JJ.

I wouldn't say the Markakis deal blew up. They didn't get the value they were hoping for but I don't think it every hurt the team.

And it's too early to tell with Hardy but obviously the early returns are not good.

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As would I.

But, I have heard so much crapola from the Matt Wieters haters, about how he is a poor pitch framer, and nothing more that replacement level catcher.

Perhaps less exaggeration on your part would make it seem less like crapola.

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