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It largely comes down to pitching. Tampa has two good ones in Odorizzi and Archer, plus Moore will be back. That's hard to beat, but it's possible.

Who didn't think Tampa would fall from grace without Madden? Man, second to Houston for surprises this year.

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The O's are 11-13 in games started by Tillman and Norris. That's not great, but it's hard to say they're giving the team no chance to win.

Exactly. Neither has been close to what we hoped for but to say they give us no chance to win is silly.

Odds are one of the two gets things going and there is always a walk jn the parking lot for the other [emoji3]

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Neither Houston or Tampa will make the playoffs.

Houston I am not sold on.

Tampa however has the a really nice pitching staff with Matt Moore coming back. I expect Tampa to be competitive for a wild card spot just based on their pitching talent.

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Exactly. Neither has been close to what we hoped for but to say they give us no chance to win is silly.

Odds are one of the two gets things going and there is always a walk jn the parking lot for the other [emoji3]

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They are not giving the team a chance to win unless you think barely 5 IP/GS and 6 + Runs allowed on average is a chance. The team has won anyway because they've scored more than 6 and had a good bullpen.
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They are not giving the team a chance to win unless you think barely 5 IP/GS and 6 + Runs allowed on average is a chance. The team has won anyway because they've scored more than 6 and had a good bullpen.

So let me get this straight....they are not giving the team a chance to win but the team has won anyway? You gotta admit there is an irony in that lol.

I get the gist of what saying and sort of agree. I do think that Norris and Tillman have had proven success, its not unreasonable to see if you can get them on track, if you do your team is better. That said I am not a fan of the way KG is being utilized.

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