In case you didn't know

[Oriolesallday]

After 81 games

2014: 42-39

2015: 42-39

[Jonesy10]

Yep! Both teams were also 41-36. This team also has a much better run differential, a better CD, Chen, Ubaldo, Brach, and Britton, along with Wieters, and a healthy and super star Machado. The team was also 18-5 before this rough 6 game stretch so at some point they had to slow down for a little bit. Last year even when they were rolling they were swept and looked terrible against the Cubs. Rough stretches happen. This team will be fine.

[Can_of_corn]

In 2005 they were 44-37.

[TonySoprano]

In 2005 they were 44-37.

How many of those guys are still on the roster?

[Can_of_corn]

How many of those guys are still on the roster?

I stand by my point.

Further decline is also a plausible outcome.

[MdSooner]

I stand by my point.

Further decline is also a plausible outcome.

I agree. That stat is meaningless. We are not a good team

[Tx Oriole]

I agree. That stat is meaningless. We are not a good team

And you will change your mind when the O's turn things around.

[TonySoprano]

I stand by my point.

Further decline is also a plausible outcome.

I agree. That stat is meaningless. We are not a good team

We're talking about the same team that from June 4 - June 28 went 18-5. They've hit a rough patch and "decline is a plausible outcome," and "we're not a good team." Despite how this week has gone, I still feel a lot better about our chances than where we were a month ago.

[Can_of_corn]

We're talking about the same team that from June 4 - June 28 went 18-5. They've hit a rough patch and "decline is a plausible outcome," and "we're not a good team." Despite how this week has gone, I still feel a lot better about our chances than where we were a month ago.

I loved our chances in 2005.

[TonySoprano]

I loved our chances in 2005.

Did you like the last 4 starts from Chen, Gausman, Jiminez, and Tillman or would you rather be contrary? It's almost like you're arguing just to argue.

As to 2005, I never liked having Sosa on our team, having said at the time the $10M that MacPhail sent with him was a big red flag.

[Can_of_corn]

Did you like the last 4 starts from Chen, Gausman, Jiminez, and Tillman or would you rather be contrary? It's almost like you're arguing just to argue.

As to 2005, I never liked having Sosa on our team, having said at the time the $10M that MacPhail sent with him was a big red flag.

I see a flawed team that might win the East and might finish under .500.

I don't see much worth in pointing out that last year's 96 win team had an identical record after 81 games.

For the record I didn't care much for Sosa either.

[Aristotelian]

I love that they mov d bud to the pen. This group with Gausman I expect to keep us in every ballgame. Our offense will break through more often than it doesn't.

[Going Underground]

Do we really know what the team is going to do.Each year is different. I can point to Schoop coming back and Gausman in the rotation. Also perhaps injuries crop up to a starting pitcher and Jones goes on the DL for a month .We shall see what happens.

[TonySoprano]

I see a flawed team that might win the East and might finish under .500.

I don't see much worth in pointing out that last year's 96 win team had an identical record after 81 games.

For the record I didn't care much for Sosa either.

I believe his point, to all the people who are frustrated with this team, was there is still a lot of baseball to be played this year. Yeah, we get it, every year is different, but comparisons to last year is infinitely more relevant than to 2005 and you know that.

If you want to travel down memory lane, in only 8 of the past 20 years, the Orioles have had a winning record at this point. 5 of those other 7 teams finished with a winning record, so yeah I like our odds, particularly with Showalter in charge, as opposed to Mazz (2005) or Trembley (2008).

YR	W1	L1	W2	L2	W	L2014	42	39	54	27	96	662013	45	36	40	41	85	772012	44	37	49	32	93	692011	36	45	33	48	69	932010	25	56	41	40	66	962009	36	45	28	53	64	982008	42	39	26	54	68	932007	35	46	34	47	69	932006	37	44	33	48	70	922005	44	37	30	51	74	882004	36	45	42	39	78	842003	36	45	35	46	71	912002	39	42	28	53	67	952001	39	42	24	56	63	982000	36	45	38	43	74	881999	34	47	44	37	78	841998	37	44	42	39	79	831997	54	27	44	37	98	641996	44	36	44	38	88	74

YR	W1	L1	PCT1997	54	27	0.6672013	45	36	0.5561996	44	36	0.5502012	44	37	0.5432005	44	37	0.5432015	42	39	0.5192014	42	39	0.5192008	42	39	0.519

[Frobby]

I loved our chances in 2005.

I think we have exorcized all ghosts of 2005. This is a much better team, with a better manager, that knows how to win. I'm not saying we are certain to win the division or make the playoffs, but 2005 is irrelevant to me. 2013 is much more relevant.