MarCakes21 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 According to Peter Gammons, the padres have spoken to several teams about Shields. He's in the first year of a 4 year $75 mil deal. The report said the Padres would likely have to eat some of the money. I always liked Shields when he was in the AL and thought he performed well. We would get control of a front of the rotation starter for 4 years on a deal that isn't awful. Thoughts on what we could offer that would make the Pads listen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarCakes21 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 I was thinking we might be able to get them interested without any of those 3 given the deal Shields is on. Maybe something including Wright and Walker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Anybody who would "move the needle" for us would take Gausman or Bundy or Schoop. Bundy maybe only because of his health issues. But Iwouldn't deal either of the other two. And it wouldn't be nearly enough. We just don't have the prospects to offer a great package.Besides, Shields will be 34 at the end of the year and he isn't THAT great. Not sure why it would take a lot to get Shields if you are willing to take on his salary. It is not as if there is a lot of surplus value to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysilver03 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Not sure why it would take a lot to get Shields if you are willing to take on his salary.It is not as if there is a lot of surplus value to be had. That's why I don't understand why they would be trying to move him already. I guess Dodgers only sent money for Kemp for this year. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can_of_corn Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 That's why I don't understand why they would be trying to move him already. I guess Dodgers only sent money for Kemp for this year. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk So you think he was trying to fund years 2-4 from playoff revenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waroriole Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Are the Padres going to fire the idiot GM who was going to spend them into being contenders too, or just the manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camden_yardbird Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Getting shields would likely mean not keeping Tillman. I don't know which I would prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waroriole Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Getting shields would likely mean not keeping Tillman. I don't know which I would prefer. I wouldn't give that kind of money to either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdbdotcom Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Shields would have to get younger for me to be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stotle Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 That's why I don't understand why they would be trying to move him already. I guess Dodgers only sent money for Kemp for this year. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk $18MM of 2015 salary $3.5MM of 2016 salary $3.5MM of 2017 salary $3.5MM of 2018 salary $3.5MM of 2019 salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stotle Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 So you think he was trying to fund years 2-4 from playoff revenue? Upton comes off the books this year so maybe he was just shifting salary and planning on Renfroe to step in for Upton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stotle Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Are the Padres going to fire the idiot GM who was going to spend them into being contenders too, or just the manager? Preller is an idiot? Okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reboulet'sStache Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Shields has been average this year, and with his age, there isn't much reason to think he will be much better than that going forward. The Padres would have to eat a ton of money for there to be any value on the contract, let alone the kind of surplus value that commands a big return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysilver03 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 $18MM of 2015 salary$3.5MM of 2016 salary $3.5MM of 2017 salary $3.5MM of 2018 salary $3.5MM of 2019 salary I knew there was some money after this year but dodnt realize it was that much. Didn't realize he was signed for so long either. Wow what a bad contract and trade. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrungoHazewood Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Shields has been average this year' date=' and with his age, there isn't much reason to think he will be much better than that going forward. The Padres would have to eat a ton of money for there to be any value on the contract, let alone the kind of surplus value that commands a big return.[/quote']He's having a fairly poor year in a pitcher's environment. He's been good in the past. His strikeout rate is still high, which tends to be the best indicator of how long he'll last and be good. He wouldn't be a bad acquisition, but he's paid well and Corn is right - not much surplus value there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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