Quietly, is Chen having the best season of any Orioles starting pitcher since Erik Bedard?

[weams]

Yes, that is why I included ERA+, to take that into account.

Got it. Certainly then.

[weams]

The reason I prefer Chen is that he gets deeper into games.

Less than 5 IP: Ubaldo 3, Chen 2

5-5.2 IP: Ubaldo 5, Chen 2

6-6.2 IP: Ubaldo 2, Chen 4

7-7.2 IP, Ubaldo 6, Chen 5

8 IP: Ubaldo 1, Chen 4

Admittedly, Ubaldo had that one game where he was ejected in the 4th inning, and he had two other games vs. the NL where Buck yanked him early for a pinch hitter (though he was struggling in both those games, allowing 3 ER in 4 IP each time with pitch counts in the 85-87 range). So, his IP numbers could look a bit better. I still put a lot of value on Chen getting deep into more games than Ubaldo.

Very good answer again. Very good.

[DrungoHazewood]

The difference in average ERA for the two eras would be strikingly different if you compared.

2006 was one of the 20 highest scoring seasons of the post-1900 era. 2014 was one of the 30 lowest. The biggest difference in MLB history was between 1908 (3.4 R/G) and 1871 (10.64, 4.22 of which were earned runs). Post-1900 the most runs scored in a season was 1930, at 5.64. And while we've seen scoring fall recently, the 1894-1908 and 1871-1880 timeframes saw runs fall by more than half.

[weams]

2006 was one of the 20 highest scoring seasons of the post-1900 era. 2014 was one of the 30 lowest. The biggest difference in MLB history was between 1908 (3.4 R/G) and 1871 (10.64, 4.22 of which were earned runs). Post-1900 the most runs scored in a season was 1930, at 5.64. And while we've seen scoring fall recently, the 1894-1908 and 1871-1880 timeframes saw runs fall by more than half.

Erik was a very good pitcher in 2006 and 2007. He was not close to league average.

[sportsfan8703]

Great thread. Chen has been a beast so far. At one point 2-3 weeks ago Chen, Gonzo and Ubaldo all had pretty much the same ERA. Ubaldo and Chen have lowered there's and Gonzo has seen his go up significantly.

[DrungoHazewood]

Erik was a very good pitcher in 2006 and 2007. He was not close to league average.

By fWAR the Orioles have had one starter with a season of five or more wins since 2005. That's Bedard in 2007. They've had one pitcher with a season worth between 4.0 and 4.99 wins. That's Bedard in 2006. They've also had just one season worth between 3.0 and 3.99 wins. That's Bedard in 2005.

[Frobby]

By fWAR the Orioles have had one starter with a season of five or more wins since 2005. That's Bedard in 2007. They've had one pitcher with a season worth between 4.0 and 4.99 wins. That's Bedard in 2006. They've also had just one season worth between 3.0 and 3.99 wins. That's Bedard in 2005.

Wow is that depressing. Still, we've managed to eke some good seasons out of some pitchers regardless of what fWAR they had. Just nothing dominant.

[weams]

By fWAR the Orioles have had one starter with a season of five or more wins since 2005. That's Bedard in 2007. They've had one pitcher with a season worth between 4.0 and 4.99 wins. That's Bedard in 2006. They've also had just one season worth between 3.0 and 3.99 wins. That's Bedard in 2005.

Pretty much my point. Thanks.