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There's a simple explanation for why the Orioles are stinking to high heaven with runners in scoring position. It's terrible plate discipline. Instead of forcing pitchers to throw strikes, too many of our hitters are swinging at pitches nowhere near the strike zone, and getting themselves out. Eight for their last 93 with runners in scoring position probably wouldn't be possible if some in hitters weren't saving pitchers from themselves.

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The Orioles also have a nasty habit of not taking advantage of free baserunners who reached via walk, hit by pitch, error, or misplay that is not charged as an error, while our pitchers too often allow such runners to score.

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Jones' at bat with runners on 1st and 3rd with nobody out was just pathetic. He gets so over anxious at times.

It's times like this that I miss Nick Markakis.

At least Manny has walked twice.

Worst AB of the night. Just really stupid baseball.

Buck needs to get him out of the 3 hole. Bat him 6th. Get him out of his head for awhile.

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There's a simple explanation for why the Orioles are stinking to high heaven with runners in scoring position. It's terrible plate discipline. Instead of forcing pitchers to throw strikes, too many of our hitters are swinging at pitches nowhere near the strike zone, and getting themselves out. Eight for their last 93 with runners in scoring position probably wouldn't be possible if some in hitters weren't saving pitchers from themselves.

I wholeheartedly agree. Forget about Coolbaugh. Buck's mantra has always been: Don't take away what has worked for these guys in the past. Perhaps that is the one "chink" in Buck's armor that has kept him from winning a World Series. Just a thought...

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I wholeheartedly agree. Forget about Coolbaugh. Buck's mantra has always been: Don't take away what has worked for these guys in the past. Perhaps that is the one "chink" in Buck's armor that has kept him from winning a World Series. Just a thought...

Exactly. AJ swinging at everything might work against sub-par pitching at times in non pressure situations, but with runners on base in a close game, it doesn't work.

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