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I'm So Sick of the Buy/Sell Argument


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The devil is always in the details. The truth of the matter is that all moves have to be considered on there merits. If DD made ten moves and we got a slight advantage on each one, that would be awesome. I could care less if he's buying or selling. Improve the long term prospects for the club, that's all anyone should care about.

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So please explain why you were against the DeAza trade? You said in another post that we shouldn't give up anyone that could possibly contribute, but they turned two non prospects into someone that helped down the stretch last year and then was parlayed into a decent prospect this year. Doesn't that fit your logic here.

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I'm tired of all these folks jumping up and yelling sell after every loss. What kind of fans are these who seem to be itching to give up on the season.

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I'm tired of all these folks jumping up and yelling sell after every loss. What kind of fans are these who seem to be itching to give up on the season.

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I don't do the first part, per se, but I don't think this team is good enough, nor has enough trade ammunition to be good enough. I'd rather take a bunch of valuable parts and look to the second half of the decade than push all in this year. I've been a fan 41 years. No one loves the team more than I do.

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I'm tired of all these folks jumping up and yelling sell after every loss. What kind of fans are these who seem to be itching to give up on the season.

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This team is mediocre. Not good enough to win it all. With not a lot of help on the way from the minors. Some feel there is no point to be a .500 team this year when you could cash in to improve the team long term.

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I'm tired of all these folks jumping up and yelling sell after every loss. What kind of fans are these who seem to be itching to give up on the season.

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I've been saying sell for about three weeks now. It's not a matter of fandom, it's a matter of maximizing the ability to reach the playoffs in the foreseeable future. I really feel like if this team further depletes an already thin farm system that you have probably seen the end of Orioles teams that could reach the world series as long as Manny and Jones are here barring huge comebacks from Bundy and Harvey as well as a surprise star from somewhere in the system. And I don't think this team is good enough to worth risking that potential future.

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The devil is always in the details. The truth of the matter is that all moves have to be considered on there merits. If DD made ten moves and we got a slight advantage on each one, that would be awesome. I could care less if he's buying or selling. Improve the long term prospects for the club, that's all anyone should care about.

If you are talking about "long term prospects for the club" then you are talking about subsequent seasons, right? There clearly is a make moves for now and make moves for later mindset. Very few deals fall into both categories.

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The devil is always in the details. The truth of the matter is that all moves have to be considered on there merits. If DD made ten moves and we got a slight advantage on each one, that would be awesome. I could care less if he's buying or selling. Improve the long term prospects for the club, that's all anyone should care about.

That's your opinion, and you certainly are entitled to it. Had you used the word "I" in place of "anyone," it might even sound reasonable.

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I've been saying sell for about three weeks now. It's not a matter of fandom, it's a matter of maximizing the ability to reach the playoffs in the foreseeable future. I really feel like if this team further depletes an already thin farm system that you have probably seen the end of Orioles teams that could reach the world series as long as Manny and Jones are here barring huge comebacks from Bundy and Harvey as well as a surprise star from somewhere in the system. And I don't think this team is good enough to worth risking that potential future.

Absolutely.... there is no scenario where we lose Markakis, Cruz, Miller, O'Day, Davis, Wieters, and Chen in two years and get better. Even if we net draft picks they are 2-4 years out and the team likely struggles in 2016 and 2017. If we can get quality prospects then why not make those deals?

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That's your opinion, and you certainly are entitled to it. Had you used the word "I" in place of "anyone," it might even sound reasonable.

You care about this season more than any of the next 5? What have you seen to make you think that this team is close to being special enough to win a WS? I would struggle through 5 more losing seasons for one WS championship, but I would not do the same for one more playoff birth.

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This team is mediocre. Not good enough to win it all. With not a lot of help on the way from the minors. Some feel there is no point to be a .500 team this year when you could cash in to improve the team long term.

There have been a fair number of teams that weren't good enough to win it all that won it all.

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You care about this season more than any of the next 5? What have you seen to make you think that this team is close to being special enough to win a WS? I would struggle through 5 more losing seasons for one WS championship, but I would not do the same for one more playoff birth.

There is no such thing as "special enough to win the WS". There is no difference between a playoff birth, and a team that could win the Series. You get to the playoffs by whatever means necessary and hope for the best. The Royals were one inning from winning it all last year, and they snuck into the playoffs and only in retrospect did anyone think they had any special sauce. By no objective measure were they better than 10 other teams last year.

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You care about this season more than any of the next 5? What have you seen to make you think that this team is close to being special enough to win a WS? I would struggle through 5 more losing seasons for one WS championship, but I would not do the same for one more playoff birth.

And that's all anyone should care about? I happen to value other opinions as well.

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