Orioles Willing to Discuss Gausman in Trades

[Can_of_corn]

I see no reason Gausman should be off limits. The return would have to be very high, is all.

Higher then would be realistically obtainable.

[TINSTAAPP]

I don't think the White sox would just want Gausman. He is under team control. They would want more.

I would be fine with that because Sale is an absolute stud. I just don't want them to trade Gausman for Gomez or Hamels which will be terrible moves.

[Rene88]

Deal Gausman?

If they do this they are mad.

And I am madder.

I was trying to take a break from this board, but this will do it for me.

Nobody should be untradeable, but DD doesn't have anything close to AM's acumen. In fact, he kinda scares me a little. The one guy we traded for Snider (yes, we actually gave up something for him) pitched a no-hitter (Tarpley). Not sure if people realized that. Erod was a tough call. I just wish Miller would have gotten serious consideration in the offseason. Either him or Cruz. Regardless, I would be very careful what you wish for. DD is depleting our system and filling it with folks playing below their competition level in may cases (yes, winning does matter for the farm system but Brandon Snyder playing AA ball isn't fooling anyone).

To me, it isn't even close. I am a "win-now" guy I guess you would say but this team doesn't have it. Too many holes. Too many off-years. The AL East can be won reasonably easy IMO, but we aren't going to go much further than that without big pieces (pieces that we can't and shouldn't acquire).

I would sell Davis high to the Pirates or similar. There are few sellers right now and the yield could help stabilize the farm system and make us a winner for years out.

I would sell Chen as well if we can get a "haul".

If we can't get good pieces, roll with what you got and acquire a minor piece here or there but Gausman should not be a part of that equation. K Gausman and Harvey are keepers. Nobody wants Bundy for what we would want for him so forget about that.

I saw somebody post they are tired of reading about the debate? Not sure why that is the case. I think DD is asking that every day himself. Does he think he will be here in 3 years? That may factor into what he does.

[Going Underground]

I see no reason Gausman should be off limits. The return would have to be very high, is all.

he is one of the few guys who has trade value. Manny and Schoop and Jones are staying.

[paulcoates]

Hamels is due roughly $23.5M in 2016-2018 with a $20M option in 2019. Then there is the $8M due the rest of this year. That is pushing $100M over the next 4.5 years....

I know. But right now, on the market, he is the only one I would consider because he is a bona fide #1. Angelos will never agree to a starting pitcher that much money though, so this wouldn't happen

[Can_of_corn]

he is one of the few guys who has trade value. Manny and Schoop and Jones are staying.

I don't agree with the idea of trading someone of significant value to slightly increase the odds of winning a wild card.

[Ripken]

I vehemently want to sell... but if DD is buying why wouldn't he consider Gausman along with everyone else. I like the kid but this org will not just put him in the rotation and let him go. Must be a reason for that, which is maybe that they don't think he's as good as most of us do. Does he have a third pitch yet?

[Can_of_corn]

I know. But right now, on the market, he is the only one I would consider because he is a bona fide #1. Angelos will never agree to a starting pitcher that much money though, so this wouldn't happen

I don't think he is still a bona fide #1.

[AdamK]

I am pretty sure the ghost Horatio saw in Hamlet was Gausman on the mound tonight and not the dead king of Denmark.

Oh and: http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/142115-Orioles-messing-with-Gausman-again-what-s-new?p=3573147&highlight=jerking#post3573147

[Redskins Rick]

I was trying to take a break from this board, but this will do it for me.

Nobody should be untradeable, .....

I think DD is asking that every day himself. Does he think he will be here in 3 years? That may factor into what he does.

I understood what you was saying, while at the same time, not in agreement, but I was following your thought process.

However, once you got to DD might be factoring future decisions based on if he would be here in 3 years, well, sorry, but I was done at that point.

My opinion, DD has too much integrity to play games like that.

There are no guarantees in this game, even with signed contracts, there is no guarantee what you will be doing in 3 years.

To even bring it up, is very insulting to DD.

Again, just my opinion.

[AlbionHero]

Woo. These next few years are gonna be great after we went for it all this year.

[DrinkinWithFermi]

For a rental? Hell no.

For a player with several years of control left, i.e. Jay Bruce? I would probably consider it.

[gmelson26]

I was trying to take a break from this board, but this will do it for me.

Nobody should be untradeable, but DD doesn't have anything close to AM's acumen. In fact, he kinda scares me a little. The one guy we traded for Snider (yes, we actually gave up something for him) pitched a no-hitter (Tarpley). Not sure if people realized that. Erod was a tough call. I just wish Miller would have gotten serious consideration in the offseason. Either him or Cruz. Regardless, I would be very careful what you wish for. DD is depleting our system and filling it with folks playing below their competition level in may cases (yes, winning does matter for the farm system but Brandon Snyder playing AA ball isn't fooling anyone).

To me, it isn't even close. I am a "win-now" guy I guess you would say but this team doesn't have it. Too many holes. Too many off-years. The AL East can be won reasonably easy IMO, but we aren't going to go much further than that without big pieces (pieces that we can't and shouldn't acquire).

I would sell Davis high to the Pirates or similar. There are few sellers right now and the yield could help stabilize the farm system and make us a winner for years out.

I would sell Chen as well if we can get a "haul".

If we can't get good pieces, roll with what you got and acquire a minor piece here or there but Gausman should not be a part of that equation. K Gausman and Harvey are keepers. Nobody wants Bundy for what we would want for him so forget about that.

I saw somebody post they are tired of reading about the debate? Not sure why that is the case. I think DD is asking that every day himself. Does he think he will be here in 3 years? That may factor into what he does.

I was going to write my own post, but you've summed up what I was going to say. The trade deadline is for sellers, we should explore getting some real talent for the next few years with the current rentals. Too many holes, too many off years, agreed. Out of Wieters, Snider, Hardy, Pearce, we needed 2 of them to have above average years... all 4 have been underwhelming. Also Norris/Tillman.

[Rene88]

For a rental? Hell no.

For a player with several years of control left, i.e. Jay Bruce? I would probably consider it.

You would trade Gausman for Jay Bruce??? I like Jay Bruce (concerned about him outside of that park a tad). No way. Pass.

[Rene88]

I was going to write my own post, but you've summed up what I was going to say. The trade deadline is for sellers, we should explore getting some real talent for the next few years with the current rentals. Too many holes, too many off years, agreed. Out of Wieters, Snider, Hardy, Pearce, we needed 2 of them to have above average years... all 4 have been underwhelming. Also Norris/Tillman.

It is very clear to many that we have a very good opportunity to improve the team significantly for the long-term here and help a farm-system depleted of positional talent.

That doesn't mean you have to "blow it up". The AL East is weak this year. You could trade Davis and Chen and probably still compete for the title by adding another bat and promoting Givens/Beato.