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What is the reason? (FYI, he's been traded twice, not three times.)

The reason is each of the teams that he was traded from knew they would not be able to keep him longterm and were simply recovering what value they could.

Arizona has Goldschmidt to try and lock up.

The Padres had him at a reasonable number for 1 year, they were never resigning him. If they were playoff contenders he would have stayed.

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If CD continues to crush it then he is also going to crush it in the FA market.

If the number becomes inflated enough that the O's feel like it would impede or preclude them from having the money to lock up Manny as well....they should let him walk even if it hurts in the short term.

20 million AAV is if we are being generous somewhere between 1/6th and 1/7th of the O's likely payroll moving forward (120-140 million). That is least how much of your payroll you will have tied up in CD. Now if you want to have Manny longterm, your looking at two players eating up roughly 28-33% of your payroll. I just can't see that happening and frankly I am pretty sure its not the best thing for a franchise with pretty spotty number of position player prospects we have. If we were loaded with guys ready to come up, you could make an argument to do it. We are clearly not. I can't see it happening.

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My hope is Davis, Parra, O'day and Chen. Time to lose some dead weight in pearce and (more or less) Weiters.

Not so much that Wieters is dead weight as we just don't need him. Joseph and Clevenger will man the catcher position just fine next year. They won't re-sign 4 of their own, but if they could re-sign Davis and Parra that would be great. I have a feeling the plan all along was for Miranda to eventually replace Chen. O'Day is a nice luxury, but we can cover his loss in the bullpen with a ton of guys...most notably Brach and Givens.

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Davis with Boras as his free agent - Try 7 years/22m per year. 154m. The O's will not go there. And shouldn't.

They might be able to sign Parra. 3/9m. 27m.

Chen with Boras. 5/14m. 70m. O's could be in on him.

Wieters? McCann was hurt the year before he went FA. Still got 5/85. That is where I expect Wieters to be.

O'Day. Probably 3/21. But do the O's want to spend their money that way when they have Britton, Brach, Givens, McFarland, Drake, Roe, Cabral, Triggs, Toliver, Garcia, Berry, S. Johnson and Beato. And that is not counting Wright, Wilson and Miranda who could start or relieve.

My thoughts exactly

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Not so much that Wieters is dead weight as we just don't need him. Joseph and Clevenger will man the catcher position just fine next year. They won't re-sign 4 of their own, but if they could re-sign Davis and Parra that would be great. I have a feeling the plan all along was for Miranda to eventually replace Chen. O'Day is a nice luxury, but we can cover his loss in the bullpen with a ton of guys...most notably Brach and Givens.

I'd think Chen would resign if the deal was nice enough. O'day is a big question mark, and I'd keep him so he isn't in pinstripes or in the great north (boston or toronto).

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Not so much that Wieters is dead weight as we just don't need him. Joseph and Clevenger will man the catcher position just fine next year. They won't re-sign 4 of their own, but if they could re-sign Davis and Parra that would be great. I have a feeling the plan all along was for Miranda to eventually replace Chen. O'Day is a nice luxury, but we can cover his loss in the bullpen with a ton of guys...most notably Brach and Givens.

That and wieters is damaged goods, and not as good as they were.

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The reason is each of the teams that he was traded from knew they would not be able to keep him longterm and were simply recovering what value they could.

Arizona has Goldschmidt to try and lock up.

The Padres had him at a reasonable number for 1 year, they were never resigning him. If they were playoff contenders he would have stayed.

He did stay in San Diego.

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Don't know if it would have been possible, but when CD was having his bad year last season, the whole amphetamine thing came out and DD was mentally gearing up for letting Cruz leave because 'We will have CD back next year' then surely that would have been the time to push for some form of contract extension, when his stock would have been at its lowest?

As for now, well losing CDs production would be a massive blow so if we are not going to stump up the cash, we will need to fund a premium slugger from somewhere in the off-season. I don't think there is a ready made DD quote 'We may be losing Chris but we have XXXXX coming back next season', as Mr XXXXX doesn't exist.

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Don't know if it would have been possible, but when CD was having his bad year last season, the whole amphetamine thing came out and DD was mentally gearing up for letting Cruz leave because 'We will have CD back next year' then surely that would have been the time to push for some form of contract extension, when his stock would have been at its lowest?

As for now, well losing CDs production would be a massive blow so if we are not going to stump up the cash, we will need to fund a premium slugger from somewhere in the off-season. I don't think there is a ready made DD quote 'We may be losing Chris but we have XXXXX coming back next season', as Mr XXXXX doesn't exist.

Why would Davis sign a contract at his lowest value when he's got a year to redeem himself?

Not being snarky. But the player has a say too.

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Why would Davis sign a contract at his lowest value when he's got a year to redeem himself?

Not being snarky. But the player has a say too.

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Fair point, but even CD would have not guaranteed he would have another career season plus there may be a bit of 'I've screwed a year of my contract up, so will entertain a further years extension' going on.

I know, I'm in la-la land and all players are totally mercenary etc :)

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